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Post by livi4change on May 19, 2015 8:41:05 GMT 1
Come on Livi fans is it not time we united together for our club. While we won the Cup and avoided relegation that merely papered over the cracks in the board room.
- Rankine having an (ego) legal war with Nixon (who really won here?)
- Docked 5 points over an ego trip (not really sure if we did pay bonuses here?)
- who is running our club day to day right now?
- Rankine convicted of dual ownership by SfA/SPFL & Livi FC punished (again)
- I heard towards the end LFL are no longer allowed to do "cash" gates at EAA
Currently we have:
- 3 players signed for next year
- A number of players seem to have already been told they can go (interesting they all seem to show support to Gordon McDougall)
- we currently can't sign any new players (linked to Rankings' dual ownership)
- As far as I know Burchills contract ends this month
- Season tickets on sale
- Haven't seen any pre season games announced
We as fans, I believe are being treated as mushrooms in the current goings on. Time for the fans united and
push the club for real answers or our very own Livingston FC could die in front of our very own eyes!!
Any other fans feel the same way or is it just me?
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Post by monkeysocks on May 19, 2015 11:14:22 GMT 1
Rankine holds the key to the solutions of many of the points you have raised. Other than the other board members buying him out quickly, and the SPFL lifting the signing band we ,as you stated, will only have 3 signed players. Don't think any of our current crop of players despite their affection for Livi will hang about and base their futures on promises of contracts.They have bills to pay like everyone else.
Don't see what else can be done apart from wait and hope that sense prevails very soon. I fear it is going to be a long summer and Burchill is going to struggle to pull a team together in time for July.
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Post by Inch Lion on May 19, 2015 18:47:28 GMT 1
One thing for sure is they need to get all this sooner rather than later.
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Post by Benedict Le Gauche on May 19, 2015 19:09:28 GMT 1
It would appear that our club is in a state of chaos from top to bottom right now. Lots of unanswered questions and with no apparent direction. No news forthcoming, as per.
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Post by Pedro on May 19, 2015 21:43:21 GMT 1
The sports journalist for the West Lothian Courier, Callum Carson (@callumcarson34), has just tweeted "Mark Burchill has agreed a deal to continue as Livingston manager - contract yet to be signed but hopes it's done by Monday."
That's got to bring a bit of stability to proceedings?
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Post by liviman on May 19, 2015 21:58:28 GMT 1
The sports journalist for the West Lothian Courier, Callum Carson (@callumcarson34), has just tweeted "Mark Burchill has agreed a deal to continue as Livingston manager - contract yet to be signed but hopes it's done by Monday." That's got to bring a bit of stability to proceedings? It does. I think the original poster was suggesting we need stability at boardroom level though. It's great having a manager, but we can't sign any players until the boy Rankine does the decent thing & sells up. |
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Post by Auldnick on May 19, 2015 23:36:13 GMT 1
It is now about a week since Mr McDougall was quoted in the EEN as saying that he hoped there would be resolution of the boardroom situation within a few weeks. So perhaps there are wheels in motion on that front but negotiations are perhaps being dealt with in private.
Give it time & we will see what transpires.
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Post by livi4change on May 20, 2015 5:45:27 GMT 1
It is now about a week since Mr McDougall was quoted in the EEN as saying that he hoped there would be resolution of the boardroom situation within a few weeks. So perhaps there are wheels in motion on that front but negotiations are perhaps being dealt with in private. Give it time & we will see what transpires. How long do we as fans sit & wait and be treated like mushrooms?? meanwhile they want us to buy season tickets? from reading this thread there seems to be no appitite to collectively do something about it. I haven't even asked yet about LFL. I am assuming they no longer exist given there have been no updates from them? I think OUR club is currently dying of a slow death right in front of of very own eyes.  |
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Post by monkeysocks on May 20, 2015 6:47:01 GMT 1
What would you suggest that the support do then, to get the club stable? I would surmise not a lot. The factors which are influencing the future of Livingston FC are out with our control unless you have or know of someone who has a few hundred grand to buy Rankine out and invest in a football club which has a reputation of being on the brink on a regular basis.
I am as frustrated as you, and the other fans, at the current state of affairs . A rallying call to arms is commendable but, unless you have a strategy and can influence the status quo, don't see what good it will do.
I have written to the club twice over the past fortnight about a matter and apart from the automatic e mail response have heard nothing. Think they have bigger fish to fry than listening to the concerns of a season ticket holder of 20 years.
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Post by livimoaner on May 20, 2015 12:55:29 GMT 1
There are many, many possibilities and I have heard many people talking but cannot divulge when or who.
I have heard people talking about the ground and a change of ownership.
I have heard people talk about the ground and a change of designation/ usage.
I have heard people talking about part time football
I have heard people talk about joining with another team/ relocating further afield.
These conversations have been men in suits and one or two faces I recognised as being around or in the club previously, (but not now)
How easy it is for people to drop their guard when enjoying a coffee and a muffin and to speak slightly too loud is unbelievable, possible the one i would give most credit to is the change of usage, because the club could be doing things to gain additional income from the ground and are not doing so, possible to ensure that no custom and tradition is established doing those activities...ie no barrier to a change of usage.
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Post by theflashingblade on May 20, 2015 17:32:31 GMT 1
- who is running our club day to day right now? Anyone? |
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Post by Auldnick on May 20, 2015 19:06:11 GMT 1
It is now about a week since Mr McDougall was quoted in the EEN as saying that he hoped there would be resolution of the boardroom situation within a few weeks. So perhaps there are wheels in motion on that front but negotiations are perhaps being dealt with in private. Give it time & we will see what transpires. How long do we as fans sit & wait and be treated like mushrooms?? meanwhile they want us to buy season tickets? from reading this thread there seems to be no appitite to collectively do something about it. I haven't even asked yet about LFL. I am assuming they no longer exist given there have been no updates from them? I think OUR club is currently dying of a slow death right in front of of very own eyes. We have been treated as mushrooms for most of the club's existence so nothing new there, They want us to buy season tickets to fund summer budget for next season....as is the case every year. What do you propose? Shall we gather en masse (can barely do it for match days never mind to register our disapproval) & storm the walls of the stadium? Forcibly remove all the club officials & take up residence in their offices? Chip in a fiver each to fund the club for the next half hour? |
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Post by drwho on May 20, 2015 20:14:07 GMT 1
Think the club has missed a trick by simply not holding a fans meeting and tell everyone what's going on. Telling us when issues are expected to be sorted out by. I see some other clubs (Cowdenbeath) had done that very thing.
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Post by orco on May 20, 2015 23:10:43 GMT 1
The Trust have asked for a meeting with the club and hope to speak with them next week.
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Post by andylion on May 21, 2015 21:48:53 GMT 1
I'm very reluctant to shell out for a season ticket until I know the legal/ boardroom issues are sorted to the extent that there will be a team to take to the pitch next year.
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Post by Auldnick on May 21, 2015 23:06:22 GMT 1
Apparently Callum Carson of the Courier has tweeted something about Rankine in the process of transferring shares. Not seen it myself as I am not a twitter tweeter.
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Post by livimoaner on May 22, 2015 14:40:49 GMT 1
I try every week to win big on the lotto and along with rescuing dogs and orphans wanted to something for the club.
I think God must be a Dundee fan as I have one nothing.
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Post by durnford on May 22, 2015 14:45:12 GMT 1
I try every week to win big on the lotto and along with rescuing dogs and orphans wanted to something for the club. I think God must be a Dundee fan as I have one nothing. You just HAVE to be LiviBudgie? |
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Post by Auldnick on May 22, 2015 19:42:23 GMT 1
I think you are right D but Budgie denied it on the old dearly departed Livilions forums.
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Post by Mr Angry on May 22, 2015 20:56:03 GMT 1
Is there a youth set up anymore? Where do the funds from the Lotto actually go to? Who draws the Lotto? Who runs the club from day to day?
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Post by Mr Angry on May 22, 2015 20:57:35 GMT 1
Apparently Callum Carson of the Courier has tweeted something about Rankine in the process of transferring shares. Not seen it myself as I am not a twitter tweeter. It would seem that Rankine is simply transferring his shares sideways to the other existing board members. Sounds to me that he's keeping his finger in Livi's pie after all. |
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Post by Auldnick on May 23, 2015 13:19:26 GMT 1
you could be right Mr A but the club may have to prove otherwise to have the signing ban lifted; or if it is simply that he must no longer be a shareholder then it will be lifted. It could come under the same scenario as his loan to Dumbarton which was deemed to be okay to have in place despite his other "interests"
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Post by livijimbo on May 24, 2015 12:37:15 GMT 1
Got my ticket, but upstairs needs sorting
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Post by livihound on May 25, 2015 22:34:56 GMT 1
It is time for those who care to start asking pertinent questions. Do the Scottish FA know a convicted cocaine dealer and money launderer is on the staff? Is he fit and proper? Who is running things? What are the four amigos' plans? Do they have any money? Will wages be paid this week?
The list is endless. Can understand the apathy but it's time to fight back. What has this club become?
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Post by Auldnick on May 25, 2015 23:42:34 GMT 1
It is time for those who care to start asking pertinent questions. Do the Scottish FA know a convicted cocaine dealer and money launderer is on the staff? Is he fit and proper? Who is running things? What are the four amigos' plans? Do they have any money? Will wages be paid this week? The list is endless. Can understand the apathy but it's time to fight back. What has this club become? Petrofac Cup Winners & still a 2nd tier club...not bad going on the shoestring budget. Is the convicted cocaine dealer & money launderer still involved in these criminal practices? Who are these 4 Amigos? Why shouldn't wages be paid this week? Are you stirring it up to see who rises to the bait now that livi4change has gone quiet? |
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