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Post by Auldnick on Aug 18, 2018 10:18:45 GMT 1
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Post by Pedro on Aug 18, 2018 13:55:03 GMT 1
How come?
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Post by misdemeanor on Aug 18, 2018 17:39:41 GMT 1
Yes and our so called manager said his heart still lies in Ibrox! If that's the case f**k off. |
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Post by eastcalder on Aug 18, 2018 19:20:32 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking.
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Post by misdemeanor on Aug 18, 2018 20:18:40 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. Hopkin back in a second to bring that stability and belief back get KM to f**k IMO. |
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 18, 2018 21:29:40 GMT 1
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 18, 2018 21:34:35 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. They were probably thinking he’s a well known player with a reasonably successful career for a Scottish player, might attract some punters & players. However, as I keep saying, player managers rarely work & even the best ones gave up playing pretty quickly. Like Misdemeanor I’d happily get Hopkin back in but it isn’t going to happen anytime soon. |
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Post by andylivi1 on Aug 18, 2018 21:58:21 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. We’ve sold 1100 season tickets for this season, we sold 550/600 last season, we’ve doubled our fan base, even after the appointment of Miller people continued to buy season tickets. The attendance today was poor but home cup games usually are poorly attended, they have been for years because season tickets aren’t valid and people just don’t fancy paying for it so you tend to get your die hard fans going and others maybe giving it a miss for the week, especially families who perhaps can’t afford it. |
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Post by misdemeanor on Aug 18, 2018 22:55:14 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. We’ve sold 1100 season tickets for this season, we sold 550/600 last season, we’ve doubled our fan base, even after the appointment of Miller people continued to buy season tickets. The attendance today was poor but home cup games usually are poorly attended, they have been for years because season tickets aren’t valid and people just don’t fancy paying for it so you tend to get your die hard fans going and others maybe giving it a miss for the week, especially families who perhaps can’t afford it. Then I have to say one thing affordability is part and parcel of football we need income every week hard as as it is but without income we do not exist which is why we need a bigger fan base to componsate for those that cannot afford every week football. We do not have that luxury at present, until we do it becomes a problem |
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 19, 2018 0:12:17 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. We’ve sold 1100 season tickets for this season, we sold 550/600 last season, we’ve doubled our fan base, even after the appointment of Miller people continued to buy season tickets. The attendance today was poor but home cup games usually are poorly attended, they have been for years because season tickets aren’t valid and people just don’t fancy paying for it so you tend to get your die hard fans going and others maybe giving it a miss for the week, especially families who perhaps can’t afford it. Or, as in my case, someone who arranged to do something else when it looked like we didn't have a game. |
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Post by colcal on Aug 19, 2018 9:53:06 GMT 1
I can’t believe the absolute nonsense being written by some on these boards. To think that the manager should leave because he’s not a Livi fan is so parochial and small-minded. If you apply that argument to the players too, we’d have a squad of around 4. You’ll remember that Hoppy is a Morton fan.
Most clubs have managers and players that support other teams so the argument is nothing short of ridiculous. If you claim to be a Livi fan, try to get behind the team and the staff because they’re all going to need us this season. Decisions have been made and this constant moaning about KM and DM is beyond embarrassing. We’ll be here long after they’ve gone. So, while they’re here, support them. It’s going to be a long season.
Back on planet earth, I thought we competed well again today for the most part. The manager had his best game so far. Kelly, Halkett and Lawless were excellent too (even though they all support teams other than Livi......). Saunders had a poor game and was always looking to get back into his right foot from the left side of defence, which makes the shape and the play unbalanced. Motherwell edged the match and 1-0 was probably about the right result.
Next week's game in Paisley is the first chance to assess where we sit. Games at Parkhead don’t tell us that. A good draw at home to Killie was a real bonus. Losing in the cup isn’t such a hammer blow other than for the lack of subsequent cash. Games against our rivals at the lower reaches of the league are the big ones - St Mirren, Hamilton, Dundee, St Johnstone and maybe even Motherwell. With Hardie and Sibbald getting close to a return, there’s some strength in depth and plenty to be optimistic about - if you can drag yourself away from the petty and pathetic arguments.
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Post by jonsnow on Aug 19, 2018 18:47:03 GMT 1
Yep strange argument to have against Kenny Miller, Leishman was a dyed in the wool Pars fan, Hay a Celtic fan, Archie Knox/Gough, Lambert, Burchill, all had ties to one of the old firm. Current players even support either side of the Glasgow two, Halkett and Lamie are big fans of Miller from his Rangers days, some of our current players even said that was a big draw on them signing up again.
He's success driven and wants to do well, whoever he has his heart at wont make any difference to his desire to do well at Livi, didn't with Leishman and wont with Miller. I just hope he can learn from mistakes and be better from it, Hoppy did, he certainly made a few along the way and Miller being an inexperienced manager will have to make his own mistakes along the way. I'm not exactly delighted at our lack of goal threat up front just now but i'll at least wait till Hardie is back fit before judging him fully on it.
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Post by livilion on Aug 19, 2018 20:25:55 GMT 1
Are people really calling for the managers head already? After 7 games and 2 defeats (1 away to Celtic) while we still have 3 good players missing? Threads on this site are almost impossible to read through tbh, complete cringefest.
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Post by jonsnow on Aug 19, 2018 22:07:38 GMT 1
Are people really calling for the managers head already? After 7 games and 2 defeats (1 away to Celtic) while we still have 3 good players missing? Threads on this site are almost impossible to read through tbh, complete cringefest. A lot of rumours coming in that he's away. |
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Post by orco on Aug 19, 2018 22:10:23 GMT 1
It's in the Sun and a bit on the BBC website
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Post by Benedict Le Gauche on Aug 19, 2018 23:16:06 GMT 1
Nothing from the club. Keeping the fans in the dark. As usual.
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Post by livilion on Aug 19, 2018 23:17:35 GMT 1
Nothing from the club. Keeping the fans in the dark. As usual. It's Sunday night ffs. |
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Post by Benedict Le Gauche on Aug 19, 2018 23:22:03 GMT 1
Oh, right. As you were. Nothing to see.
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Post by orco on Aug 19, 2018 23:23:58 GMT 1
Nothing from the club. Keeping the fans in the dark. As usual. Reminds me of when Bollan suddenly got the boot and Hughes and Collins arrived |
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 19, 2018 23:39:51 GMT 1
Orco! How could you mention the gruesome twosome at a time like this?
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 19, 2018 23:53:33 GMT 1
Nothing from the club. Keeping the fans in the dark. As usual. Sun article says no one at Livi available for comment on Sunday night. Record piece says joint statement was to be released in the morning but someone has leaked the story. |
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Post by ross83 on Aug 20, 2018 0:37:17 GMT 1
Yup, poor attendance today and some regular faces missing. The sooner Miller is gone the better. Still would like to know what the board were thinking. They were probably thinking he’s a well known player with a reasonably successful career for a Scottish player, might attract some punters & players. However, as I keep saying, player managers rarely work & even the best ones gave up playing pretty quickly. Like Misdemeanor I’d happily get Hopkin back in but it isn’t going to happen anytime soon. KM won us our League Cup group. His record since is a two-goal defeat away to a team who has won two consecutive trebles (hardly a disgrace: we still scored, and Celtic have beaten established top-flight teams by bigger margins these last two years), a draw against a team that finished in the top six last year and have been top-flight ever-presents since 1993, and a one-goal defeat to a team who finished runners-up in both cups last year (with us hitting the post and having a brilliant save deny us a goal). Kenny Dalglish was a successful player-manager at Liverpool. Alex Macdonald was player-manager at Hearts and turned them from a team that yo-yo'd between the divisions into one that qualified for Europe in their first season on their return to the Premier Division and would go on to spend 31 consecutive years in the top flight. |
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 20, 2018 8:44:24 GMT 1
Both Kenny D & Alex M gave up playing quite quickly as did Graeme Souness. Dalglish inherited the best team on the planet at the time, MacDonald began in the 2nd tier & stepped back quite quickly after going back up to top tier, Souness played but had & trusted Walter Smith in the dugout & the best crop of youngsters in Scotland augmented by the first wave of England internationals. All 3 crossed the white line & focussed on playing rather than trying to organise the team on the pitch.
In the league cup we beat 3 teams from lower divisions, 2 by the odd goal & judging by results so far, one of the worst teams in Scotland by 2 goals. We got a consolation goal at Celtic & have failed to score against 3 other top tier sides, at least 2 of which should be targets for us this season. I would contend we won our group despite KM’s “influence”.
I admit to being surprised by this turn of events but I have consistently said it wasn’t working & wouldn’t work- the board apparently now agree with that view of things.
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Post by eastcalder on Aug 20, 2018 8:51:30 GMT 1
The fact that KM thinks he is still good enough to play says all you need to know about his judgement.
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Post by misdemeanor on Aug 20, 2018 12:57:27 GMT 1
I can’t believe the absolute nonsense being written by some on these boards. To think that the manager should leave because he’s not a Livi fan is so parochial and small-minded. If you apply that argument to the players too, we’d have a squad of around 4. You’ll remember that Hoppy is a Morton fan. Most clubs have managers and players that support other teams so the argument is nothing short of ridiculous. If you claim to be a Livi fan, try to get behind the team and the staff because they’re all going to need us this season. Decisions have been made and this constant moaning about KM and DM is beyond embarrassing. We’ll be here long after they’ve gone. So, while they’re here, support them. It’s going to be a long season. Well I would love to support the Manager as a manager not as a player, but he has not given us the chance, which once again proves the point, he was not committed to the club. |
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