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Post by misdemeanor on Apr 29, 2016 12:35:29 GMT 1
On Tuesday night I was fortunate enough to have won the Boardroom experience and that gave me the opportunity to ask the questions that so many of you are talking about with regards to the future of Livingston Football Club.
May I say first of all for those doom and gloom merchants out there, there is no need to be, we have a bright future, a steady ship and investment coming into the club. Indeed the quality of those on the board or with financial interest and clout is quite overwhelming and the positivity that everyone shares in making the club a success is fantastic.Without saying too much as some of which I learned is not at present for public knowledge the club is here to stay make no bones about that.
The future is bright, it may not be orange but it it is Yellow and Black
Oh, on the case of us moving...watch this space....
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Post by toughatthetop on Apr 29, 2016 13:31:29 GMT 1
You've been sucked in been saying it for years
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Post by Benedict Le Gauche on Apr 29, 2016 13:58:59 GMT 1
Did one venture to ask about the promised but apparently now canned 4G pitch? Or about the company setup (by who? Rankine? Ford? Martindale? AN Other shysters?) to purchase the stadium from the council?
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Post by edinlivi on Apr 29, 2016 14:25:09 GMT 1
With all due respect, if some information is not at present for the public, how come you were privy to it through winning a raffle for the boardroom experience?
Also, the board are hardly going to portray an image of 'doom and gloom' to an avid Livingston fan, are they?
I hope what you're saying is true, although I have absolutely no faith in this board due to tainted experiences with previous board members and what I see as a lack of transparency with the current board.
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Post by jonsnow on Apr 29, 2016 15:13:19 GMT 1
I hope you're right but I fear for our future if we get relegated, really don't know how we'll survive in League One when we can barely survive in the Championship with sub one thousand attendances.
Wasn't it you that kept telling us to switch off the light every time you were back from a game where we took a poor away support or had a poor home one? Don't know how a boardroom experience can have such a remarkable change of view for you. We've had it all before too, fans believing the owners telling us everything would be great under their stewardship, only to be left with egg on our faces when we stuck up for them. We're carrying a few million in debt and have a couple of former board members chasing their director loans, until that has been sorted/paid back to them then I really can't see how any of us can believe everything is rosy.
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Post by edinlivi on Apr 29, 2016 15:17:20 GMT 1
I hope you're right but I fear for our future if we get relegated, really don't know how we'll survive in League One when we can barely survive in the Championship with sub one thousand attendances. Wasn't it you that kept telling us to switch off the light every time you were back from a game where we took a poor away support or had a poor home one? Don't know how a boardroom experience can have such a remarkable change of view for you. We've had it all before too, fans believing the owners telling us everything would be great under their stewardship, only to be left with egg on our faces when we stuck up for them. We're carrying a few million in debt and have a couple of former board members chasing their director loans, until that has been sorted/paid back to them then I really can't see how any of us can believe everything is rosy. Almost certainly relegation would cost us full-time status. We can barely maintain it in the Championship, never mind League One. |
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Post by toughatthetop on Apr 29, 2016 15:34:46 GMT 1
Even the Knox reported £100,000 has no effect by the time burchill burchills agent etc grab their money will save us were pennyless
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Post by LiviLion21 on Apr 29, 2016 17:11:35 GMT 1
On Tuesday night I was fortunate enough to have won the Boardroom experience and that gave me the opportunity to ask the questions that so many of you are talking about with regards to the future of Livingston Football Club. May I say first of all for those doom and gloom merchants out there, there is no need to be, we have a bright future, a steady ship and investment coming into the club. Indeed the quality of those on the board or with financial interest and clout is quite overwhelming and the positivity that everyone shares in making the club a success is fantastic.Without saying too much as some of which I learned is not at present for public knowledge the club is here to stay make no bones about that. The future is bright, it may not be orange but it it is Yellow and Black Oh, on the case of us moving...watch this space.... Steady - positivity is never welcomed on Livi fan forums. Brace yourself for a barrage of people telling you you're an idiot. |
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Post by jonsnow on Apr 29, 2016 20:11:31 GMT 1
It has nothing to do with negativity or positivity, we've not been told much of what the plans are and the ones we have been told about seem to have hit a hitch with the Council not getting enough information to think it is viable. I've been burnt too many times by Livi owners telling me everything it fine and dandy to just take things on blind faith.
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Post by Mr Angry on Apr 29, 2016 23:53:06 GMT 1
Here's a question for the board: Why is a convicted drugs dealer who has spent time behind bars our assistant manager?
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Post by Auldnick on Apr 29, 2016 23:55:00 GMT 1
I've sat in a room listening to & talked face to face with Pearse Flynn, it prompted me to write an open letter to Dominic Keane on the old Livilions site urging him to do what was right for the club, In truth Flynn was the start of the downward spiral - I know he rescued us from admin but with a debt free start, instead of picking up the wheel of a steadied ship he scuppered it & then sold it to the mad Italian....and I sat in a room & listened to him too, along with Neil Rankine (knowing he was a bit dodgy) & thought they were the answer. I also heard Gordon McDougall talk about taking the club forward & thought "what a nice man maybe he could bring about the right kind of future" but despite 2 successive promotions after our unfair demotion, once we got to the second tier there seemed to be a systematic stripping back to such an extent that we became perennial strugglers, dropping lower each season but of course his CV included time at his beloved Cowdenbeath, who were always strugglers who bounced between the bottom & second bottom divisions & on occasion the lower reaches of the second tier.
What I'm trying to say here is that whatever guys run the club, they only ever tell you what you want to hear & then they do whatever they like. They are in effect politicians & their constituency is the football club they "run".
If it all pans out to the good, then great but until then I will remain a little cynical laced with a touch of realism.
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Post by Auldnick on Apr 29, 2016 23:56:35 GMT 1
Here's a question for the board: Why is a convicted drugs dealer who has spent time behind bars our assistant manager? More to the point, why has the club not announced the appointment of Hoppy's assistant regardless of is past? |
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Post by livijimbo on Apr 30, 2016 8:07:42 GMT 1
On Tuesday night I was fortunate enough to have won the Boardroom experience and that gave me the opportunity to ask the questions that so many of you are talking about with regards to the future of Livingston Football Club. May I say first of all for those doom and gloom merchants out there, there is no need to be, we have a bright future, a steady ship and investment coming into the club. Indeed the quality of those on the board or with financial interest and clout is quite overwhelming and the positivity that everyone shares in making the club a success is fantastic.Without saying too much as some of which I learned is not at present for public knowledge the club is here to stay make no bones about that. The future is bright, it may not be orange but it it is Yellow and Black Oh, on the case of us moving...watch this space.... This seems like I know something but I can't tell you. Livingston FC has zapped every bit of positivity out of me over the years. So despite what LL21 says about negativity forgive me for not dancing in the streets of Livivingston with this news |
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Post by smithy on Apr 30, 2016 8:12:25 GMT 1
Well now we're back in Daily record going bust again we have no future and I'm not surprised going to support Linlithgow Rose next season
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Post by Auldnick on Apr 30, 2016 11:37:12 GMT 1
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye
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Post by jonsnow on Apr 30, 2016 13:35:28 GMT 1
Didn't take long before this thread came back to bite the OP on the posterior, admin fears the day after a thread telling us everything is rosy at Livingston FC. As long as the Nixon & Rankine shadows hang over Livi we'll never be clear of court cases and dodgy financial dealing just waiting to come out. No paperwork in anything Rankine does, only the players have contracts, can it get any more dodgy!
If the club is saying it can't pay out 7K in compo and it would put Livi FC into admin then I fear everything is far from rosy down at the Tony Macaroni Arena.
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Post by theflashingblade on Apr 30, 2016 20:35:59 GMT 1
Don't forget the convicted drug dealer in the dugout.
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Post by Auldnick on Apr 30, 2016 22:53:42 GMT 1
Presumably you mean, the convicted drug dealer who has served his time and is now free in the dugout? Surely if he was simply a convicted drug dealer he would still be in prison?
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Post by colcal on May 1, 2016 11:48:41 GMT 1
Nelson Madella was a convicted criminal. Therefore, being convicted of a crime, in itself, doesn't tell the whole story. Most deserve it. Some, like Mr Mandella, don't. Lots of people commit crimes, do the time and get on with their lives. Perhaps we shouldn't be judging without having all of the information.
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Post by Auldnick on May 1, 2016 16:11:36 GMT 1
Excellent points Colcal
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Post by bobafett on May 2, 2016 7:59:42 GMT 1
Like good ol' Buzz Lightyear himself having been convicted of drug dealing and then rehabilitated in prison I am not sure how that stops anyone being a coach?
Maradona failed a drugs test in 1994, went totally of the rails on the Colombian Marching Powder then turned it around to lead Argentina in the 2010 World Cup
The failure on the park this season has had nothing to do with his past, but more to do with cycle of managers usuing the same tactic book that rarely seems to work.
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Post by theflashingblade on May 2, 2016 9:46:30 GMT 1
Here's a question for the board: Why is a convicted drugs dealer who has spent time behind bars our assistant manager? More to the point, why has the club not announced the appointment of Hoppy's assistant regardless of is past? What are Martindales coaching credentials? Is he a paid employee or did 'he' pay to be parachuted into the dugout? |
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Post by toughatthetop on May 2, 2016 11:07:09 GMT 1
Wonder what disclosure Scotland would say
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Post by livijimbo on May 2, 2016 11:42:05 GMT 1
Wonder what disclosure Scotland would say Would confirm if the applicant had any previous convictions or not and what they were for if it found anything |
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Post by misdemeanor on May 2, 2016 13:44:45 GMT 1
Cannot believe the amount of negativity. As I just said on another comment this is the core of the problem. People on here some actually would love the club to fold, they love hiding behind there wee desk tops despising the club, with hatred comments, going over old ground time and time again. For the record I am not whiter than white I too have posted here negative comments, mainly out of frustration never hatred. You mention "convicted drug dealer",can this person who has to carry this over his shoulder for the rest of his days not be rehabilitated into society? I in my past have had many runs with courts over the years, I have suffered (quite rightly) for the acts committed but I have to live I have to survive I need to make ends meet for my family, and I will do that in what ever shape or form (legally). My point is yes he may well be, but so what? We know what he is so what difference is it making? Do not here any of you with any balls shouting the odds at any home games, I am quite sure if it was in issue the comments would have been flying around the stand.
Look, the club is not perfect, as I said I have posted comments here before that were not positive, however we all need to have some Positivity belief, and backing is what we need, all of us. We can forget about what has gone on in the past, we cannot change that, what we can change is the future.
I'm not asking or stating we throw heavy monies at the club, but we need to back this regime, like it or not. If you don`t, then stay clear of the club. All of need more than ever to back this club. We can make a difference but we need to believe we can, we need to show support, and we need to change out thought process (me included)
May I also add I have also approached the club committed my own personal time to assist in all marketing / sponsorship support, knocking on doors, going round business in West Lothian beating the Livingston Football Club drum, I will do (as my own business is a marketing support company) at no cost and as many hours as it takes to bring in revenue should my proposal be accepted.
But out with me we can all do our bit, get behind the club, start turning up for games, do our bit put any life skills we have even for a few hours a week into the club
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