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Post by bobafett on Dec 8, 2014 10:07:25 GMT 1
Seems the bawsack that is Ged Nixon is taking the club to the Court of Session to ring fence the money he claims that he owed, and if he is successful the club will be forced into Administration www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30374173Surely the fact that we have just been fined and deducted points for Nixon's dodgy practices, coupled with his directors ban should go against him One wonders how those who backed Ged and hailed him as saviour view him now having been having been duped by the charlatan? |
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Post by livimoaner on Dec 8, 2014 17:24:16 GMT 1
Thank you for the link.
It gets harder to understand football at times when for example the man that was principle cause of the issue can then sue the club he was meant to be serving when he broke the rules and that club can end up going into admin because of it?
See if anyone had offered that as a script, people would reject it as unreal and unbelievable.
The crazy world of Scottish football continues.
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Post by Mr Angry on Dec 9, 2014 10:05:50 GMT 1
We've never had anyone at the helm of the club, as Livingston FC, who wasn't in it for themselves. The Livi crowd looked a good bet when compared to the mad Italian but in hindsight they've maybe only postponed the inevitable.
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Post by livijimbo on Dec 9, 2014 20:36:32 GMT 1
Anyone know what engagement LFL are having with the Livi directors ? They seem to have been posted missing recently?
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Post by Pedro on Dec 9, 2014 22:03:46 GMT 1
There was a quote in the papers today from the LFL saying that the fued was between Neil Rankine and Ged Nixon and that the club was getting shafted in the middle (or words to that effect).
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Post by bobafett on Dec 9, 2014 22:46:33 GMT 1
Given the close association the Trust had with Nixon to help overthrow Massone, and the LFL Fan on the Board seemingly siding with Nixon over the club's interest I suppose it is no real wonder they have been keeping a low profile of late
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Post by theflashingblade on Dec 9, 2014 23:11:26 GMT 1
What angle are you coming at this from, bobafett? Are you saying the Trust were wrong to highlight the state of the club under Massone? And to then side with the only show in town to help oust him?
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Post by theflashingblade on Dec 9, 2014 23:12:35 GMT 1
You state that the LFL Fan on the Board sided with Nixon over the club's interest. In what respect?
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Post by bobafett on Dec 10, 2014 6:35:20 GMT 1
What angle are you coming at this from, bobafett? Are you saying the Trust were wrong to highlight the state of the club under Massone? And to then side with the only show in town to help oust him? Nixon was painted as the saviour by the Trust, and despite being a board member under Massone conspired to bring about the administration that allowed him to seize more control of the club. When West Lothian Council petitioned for the winding up order Nixon provided quotes for the council's press release about the positives of the chain of events that this would bring, despite it being an action brought against the company he represented Through every bad decision the Trust backed their man, and defended him at every toss and turn yet now it seems all he wishes to do is to destroy our club, then with hindsight, yes I think they will admit that they backed the wrong horse |
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Post by bobafett on Dec 10, 2014 6:39:09 GMT 1
You state that the LFL Fan on the Board sided with Nixon over the club's interest. In what respect? In respect that the after stepping down from his Position on the board and after Nixon began the process to effectively kill of the club he still associates himself with our former Chief Exec |
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Post by livijimbo on Dec 10, 2014 7:37:53 GMT 1
As I said above anyone know what discussions LFL are having with Livingston FC?
Also as Bobby saiid LFL were very vocal during Massone era why are they silent as a mouse now as our club is dying in front of our eyes?
Getting to auld for all this nonsense, but would hate to see our club die.
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Post by Capital Lion on Dec 10, 2014 8:18:36 GMT 1
You state that the LFL Fan on the Board sided with Nixon over the club's interest. In what respect? In respect that the after stepping down from his Position on the board and after Nixon began the process to effectively kill of the club he still associates himself with our former Chief Exec And how do you know he still associates with Nixon? Surely that 13-month old story and photo isn't your only source? |
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Post by fandango on Dec 10, 2014 10:31:29 GMT 1
When can we expect to hear the outcome of the court hearing today? Not a peep on the OS about it which is bad PR.
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Post by bobafett on Dec 10, 2014 10:37:06 GMT 1
They have been seen at away games together, and given the sycophantic way he agreed with everything Ged said when he was at the club, rather than representing the thoughts and concerns of the fans like he was supposed too I do not have any reason to change my assertions
Unless you have any proof to the contrary that they are not?
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Post by livimoaner on Dec 10, 2014 13:45:03 GMT 1
A fan could join the trust. The trust had meetings that had discussions with its own committee and with the clubs selected members.
LFL had a committee with elected members.
That fan would hope that the information they received from the committee was accurate, the committee likewise would hope that the information they received from the elected board member was also accurate, similar to the board of LFC.
In balance LFL trust members have done and still do contribute to the club, be it selling raffle tickets manning turnstyles, selling programmes. They used to do it in belief that such contribution would be reciprocated by redeemable ownership of the club, McG scuppered that when Nixon walked. They have also spent hours clearing snow to make both the match and practice pitches usable, cleaned the stands and done repair work.
Every Sunday two of them run a tea stall for the juniors matches and are there in all weathers.
judge the trust as you will but before doing so ensure any judgement is balanced, we call all be conned at some time, by the way can everyone send me their bank account details as I wish to share a lottery prise with everyone.......
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Post by lividihard on Dec 10, 2014 15:34:14 GMT 1
but the point here is the trust are silent when the club is on its knees now
The trust where not quiet when we were on our knees under massone
what is the trusts stance on the current status of the club
p.s case adjourned till the 23rd December
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Post by livimoaner on Dec 10, 2014 15:41:26 GMT 1
I see what you are saying.
They had a portal on the other discussion forum site and used that regularly to keep people informed.
I do not know if they have been invited to establish a similar portal on here, as you are saying communication is not at its best and having a information route here could only help with that.
Is there people that post on here that are trust members that could establish links again?
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Post by theflashingblade on Dec 10, 2014 22:33:15 GMT 1
They have been seen at away games together, and given the sycophantic way he agreed with everything Ged said when he was at the club, rather than representing the thoughts and concerns of the fans like he was supposed too I do not have any reason to change my assertions Unless you have any proof to the contrary that they are not? When was the last time they were seen together at away 'games'? Did he agree with everything Ged said when he was at the club? Did he not represent the thoughts and concerns of the fans? Nothing to say about Rankine or Massone? |
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Post by Mr Angry on Dec 11, 2014 15:11:55 GMT 1
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Post by deal on Dec 11, 2014 20:08:04 GMT 1
Ged certainly repesented the views of a vocal section of fans, or a vocal section of fans pushed his case forward. Early in his tenure when Presedential Decorating?? Found itself in financial difficulty anyone who questioned the governance of Livingston FC was met with derision from Ged's acolytes. Unfortunately, what has come to pass is once again dragging the club into the mire. This is the time for the Trust to come to the fore not to vanish like snow of a dike. The Trust and a lot of their members clearly sided with Ged so I understand that it is difficult for them . As for the "fan on the board" , I don't think that it improved anything, we were far better informed when Kay Robertson? Did the fan's liaison. |
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Post by liviman on Dec 11, 2014 20:37:10 GMT 1
I will not be believing a failed local business man who was a previous supporter of Celtic FC. It all seemed to be going well until Ged was told de doesn't own the place and couldn't make the day to day decisions.
In terms of supporters trust there was no agreed trust or board member manifesto so it was a free for all. How much did the trust board know was going on?
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Post by Gregory's Girl on Dec 11, 2014 20:47:17 GMT 1
Ged certainly repesented the views of a vocal section of fans, or a vocal section of fans pushed his case forward. Early in his tenure when Presedential Decorating?? Found itself in financial difficulty anyone who questioned the governance of Livingston FC was met with derision from Ged's acolytes. Unfortunately, what has come to pass is once again dragging the club into the mire. This is the time for the Trust to come to the fore not to vanish like snow of a dike. The Trust and a lot of their members clearly sided with Ged so I understand that it is difficult for them . As for the "fan on the board" , I don't think that it improved anything, we were far better informed when Kay Robertson? Did the fan's liaison. I liked Kay but we were no better informed when she was here, let's not kid ourselves on. It just seems to me that the same old story with Livi fans is about to be repeated. When the going gets rough we turn on our own. Allways have, it seems we always will.  |
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Post by liviman on Dec 11, 2014 21:09:02 GMT 1
You're not suggesting Ged was one of our own are you?
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Post by livimoaner on Dec 12, 2014 10:09:27 GMT 1
Ged certainly repesented the views of a vocal section of fans, or a vocal section of fans pushed his case forward. Early in his tenure when Presedential Decorating?? Found itself in financial difficulty anyone who questioned the governance of Livingston FC was met with derision from Ged's acolytes. Unfortunately, what has come to pass is once again dragging the club into the mire. This is the time for the Trust to come to the fore not to vanish like snow of a dike. The Trust and a lot of their members clearly sided with Ged so I understand that it is difficult for them . As for the "fan on the board" , I don't think that it improved anything, we were far better informed when Kay Robertson? Did the fan's liaison. I liked Kay but we were no better informed when she was here, let's not kid ourselves on. It just seems to me that the same old story with Livi fans is about to be repeated. When the going gets rough we turn on our own. Allways have, it seems we always will. Unfortunately it is a naturalistic behaviour, when doubt and apprehension combine people can respond with a fear reaction and attack those around them, such reactions taking no note of friend or foe. What is needed now is leadership. That can be from within the club or from within ourselves but it needs a person to steady the helm and allow people to unite. Maybe before a suitably convenient home game we should organise a fans meeting. These we have had before but unlike previous modes any new one should be carefully controlled and prevented from turning into a "bitch-fest" If nothing else a gathering in numbers of like minded people will allow some to feel wanted and not alone in their anxiety. |
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Post by bobafett on Dec 13, 2014 8:54:50 GMT 1
They have been seen at away games together, and given the sycophantic way he agreed with everything Ged said when he was at the club, rather than representing the thoughts and concerns of the fans like he was supposed too I do not have any reason to change my assertions Unless you have any proof to the contrary that they are not? When was the last time they were seen together at away 'games'? Did he agree with everything Ged said when he was at the club? Did he not represent the thoughts and concerns of the fans? Nothing to say about Rankine or Massone? I don't recall the last time I saw them together, but know that I and others have seen them LLD when posting on the Livilions site defended Nixon at every toss and turn, as did the rest of the Admin on that board to deny the fans their voice, so in that capacity he did not properly represent the views of the fans As I understand it, Rankine was the "Silent Partner"' whilst Nixon dealt with the day to running of the club and Rankine and others took the decision to remove him due to his failure to adequately fulfil those duties Massone is a different kettle of fish as at times his actions where questionable, but lets not forget Ged was on his Board at the same time hecaws publicly working with the Trust to limit cash flow to the club and to get creditors to push for Winding Up orders, which means in some respects Nixon is already responible for one of our Administrations and pushing us towards our second |
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