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Post by Livi News on Mar 6, 2013 13:18:13 GMT 1
Where: Almondvale Suite
When: Thursday 7th Mar, 7.30pm start
The board of Livingston Football Club have organised a fans forum to discuss the issue of Gareth Evans departure in greater detail
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Post by Pedro on Mar 6, 2013 13:31:04 GMT 1
Wouldn't want to miss this one!
Tin hats all round or storm in a tea-cup? Time will tell.
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Post by bobafett on Mar 6, 2013 14:37:15 GMT 1
As long as the panel are open and honest I fail to see why it should be anything but amicable
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Post by Gregory's Girl on Mar 6, 2013 19:02:48 GMT 1
Ah but will folk believe a word the board say and in that case is their any point in any of this? The ordinary fan will not know who to believe and theirs every chance that folk will have made their mind up beforehand anyway so it will be the board who are wasting their time. We're going but will just be quiet and listen to proceedings then make our own minds up.
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Post by Inch Lion on Mar 6, 2013 20:00:04 GMT 1
No sure I'll make this yet as I have an exam on Friday morning  |
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Post by JonnyBeGood on Mar 6, 2013 20:56:01 GMT 1
I hope to see the blawbags that spout their garbage every week at the forum. It's time for these guys to either put up or shut up.
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Post by hank on Mar 7, 2013 15:24:19 GMT 1
more importantly will there be hot drinks?
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Post by LiviLion21 on Mar 7, 2013 17:07:11 GMT 1
I hope to see the blawbags that spout their garbage every week at the forum. It's time for these guys to either put up or shut up. Correct. There's been plenty of whingers and moaners the past wee while - this is their opportunity to get the answers that they're looking for - that is of course, if they're looking for answers and aren't just moaning for the sake of it... |
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Post by JonnyBeGood on Mar 7, 2013 17:20:23 GMT 1
that is of course, if they're looking for answers and aren't just moaning for the sake of it... Moaning for the sake of it?  |
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Post by afro on Mar 7, 2013 20:18:23 GMT 1
Can't make it down tonight unfortunately, but really interested to hear what the reasons are for Evans' and Collins' departures.
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Post by Gregory's Girl on Mar 7, 2013 23:11:04 GMT 1
Well that was an anti climax for sure. We didn't get to hear why Gareth Evans left because of a confidentiality agreement or still trying to get one (I think). The fans were asked to trust the judgement of the board (Jed and Gordon and Dave Stoker) and it looked as though the most of the folk there still did. A couple of on topic questions were asked but most of the time it was about stuff that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. If their was anyone who was angry about anythig tonight then they didn't say anything or ask a question. Not so brave face to face?
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Post by Mango Fan on Mar 7, 2013 23:19:29 GMT 1
Yip, disappointed with the forum tonight although wasn't really sure what to expect. There were still some zoomers in there though  Board have a big appointment coming up with the next manager. Nae angry mob in the hall either. |
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Post by Pedro on Mar 7, 2013 23:52:57 GMT 1
There were still some zoomers in there though Here you, I resemble that remark!  Anyway, agreed that not to hear from the horses mouth the reasons for GE's sharp exit stage left was a bit disappointing, if not totally unexpected. I think most questions were fair and asked in a fair manner, even if some were completely off topic. I appreciate the reps of the board that were there tonight taking the time to meet fans face to face so soon after making their decision. The easy thing would have been to remain hidden behind the initial statement. I got the impression from the room that the feeling now was that we all move on together. Folk can see that the team is improving season on season and, the odd gripe about playing style apart, the work of the board to get us into the position we are is much appreciated. Still no Irn-Bru in the pie stalls though. ;-) |
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 8, 2013 9:42:48 GMT 1
It would be nice if someone that attended posted a transcript of the meeting.
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 8, 2013 9:58:04 GMT 1
magoo, your post says they gave a "god account."
I appreciate it was a slip on the keyboard but how accurate is that slip? Were the board God like?
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Post by LiviLion21 on Mar 8, 2013 10:10:52 GMT 1
There very obviously appears to have been developments since the forum was announced on Saturday and that meant that legally, the board couldn't say an awful lot. If they'd canned the forum altogether, they'd have been hounded for it so fair play to them for allowing it go ahead and trying to be as honest as they could.
Like they say, they would never destroy someone after leaving the club given they'll be going on to look for employment elsewhere. It would do no-one any good to publically slaughter Evans when they agreed he was a good coach and a good man.
When you look at the problems going on with other clubs just o'er the bridge, I'm happy that all we need a fans forum for is to discuss a change of manager.
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Post by mclivi on Mar 8, 2013 11:29:04 GMT 1
My understanding of the Board's response was that good players don't always make good coaches and good coaches don't always make good managers.
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 8, 2013 11:34:46 GMT 1
My understanding of the Board's response was that good players don't always make good coaches and good coaches don't always make good managers. Did the board define what made a good manager then? |
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Post by mclivi on Mar 8, 2013 12:10:39 GMT 1
No they didn't but I'm sure that every person has their own interpretation of what makes a good manager. The Board hire the manager and obviously know what they are looking for so I hope they make the right choice this time after openly admitting they appointed Gareth on the strength of John Collins recommendation despite having reservations.
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 8, 2013 13:31:46 GMT 1
I wish the board luck this time round.
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Post by JonnyBeGood on Mar 8, 2013 14:25:40 GMT 1
When it was stated that they didn't want to ruin Evans future career by giving out the reasons for his getting the sack then why did they then turn round and say it was due to a confidentiality agreement that they were not telling anyone why he wa ssacked?
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Post by hank on Mar 8, 2013 14:29:32 GMT 1
LiviLion21 I think you are incorrect there.
Gordon said there was NO legal issue and that it is merely an issue of confidentiality.
Which one assumes means that GE has asked them not to tell anyone why he was dismissed, which makes me thinks that whatever that reason is it would effect him getting another positition if it came out.
If they just said in the beginning that they sacked him because they just wanted to, it is football it happens all the time, then no-one would suspect there is another secret reason.
I fear the club has created it's own problem here.
Is there another secret reason? I don't know but by not telling us why they can't tell us will only make this rumble on and on.
Apart from that most folk seemed united about the quest for the future.
Can't believe people still having a go about Bollan sacking. Yawn!
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 8, 2013 15:47:46 GMT 1
When it was stated that they didn't want to ruin Evans future career by giving out the reasons for his getting the sack then why did they then turn round and say it was due to a confidentiality agreement that they were not telling anyone why he wa ssacked? Does getting sacked affect a football managers career? There seems to queues of sacked managers for every new post, often minutes after one of their brethren has been sacked. It could be more damaging to a sacked employee for an organization to issue a statement in regards to reasons why they cant talk about the sacking. An example of that would be an organization asked for a reference who respond by saying they are not allowed to give negative responses and therefore will not issue a reference, said company could have just refused to give a reference! |
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 9, 2013 11:43:05 GMT 1
Given the items on the news, how quickly the sacking happened after it took place in the Livi dressing room & the apparent concerns over GE's stewardship.....was the "Harlem Shake" video the final straw?
I have no doubt the board acted (& continue to act) in the best interests of the club but a simple statement of "leaving the club by mutual consent" would perhaps have kept speculation to a minimum.
Did they actually say they "didn't want to ruin his future career"? That would seem to me to be doing exactly that - if I was about to employ someone & was told that by their previous employer, I'd at least have second thoughts about the candidate & in all likelihood they wouldn't get the job.
However, we are where we are & we can only hope that the new manager (whoever he is) can continue to improve the side.
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Post by livimoaner on Mar 12, 2013 15:52:42 GMT 1
I saw the harlem shake video and heard people had mixed feelings about it.
The obvious conclusion would be that it shows a good unison of the players.
The non obvious conclusion would be about the timing, it was about the time we had a loss that effectively ended our season in that promotion became unrealistic after that defeat.
Another poster who always seems to be beating a drum about such things even indicated the unauthorized use of the fire extinguisher possibly invalidating our safety certificate.
\in continuance of replying to auldnick, surely the board would not have sacked the manager for the layers indiscretion?
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