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Post by jonsnow on Mar 13, 2018 20:05:32 GMT 1
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Post by Pedro on Mar 13, 2018 23:57:14 GMT 1
Wasn't there tonight but that equaliser must have been sweet!
It must've stuck right in Jim Duffy's craw!
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 13, 2018 23:58:26 GMT 1
Disappointing game overall. We upped the tempo briefly in the 1st half & caused them some bother but Harkins was bossing the game for most of the night. Deserved his booking for diving & should have been booked for persistent fouling but he still dictated most of the match. Our bookings were extremely harsh, you'll never see anyone sent off for two more innocuous fouls, neither incident with Byrne deserved a yellow, neither did Lithgow.
Thought we'd had it when they went ahead but a great strike from Jacko to salvage the point we deserved. I thought a draw was about right over the piece.
It was sweet Pedro but credit to Duffy he shook the hand of all our lads at the end.
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 14, 2018 0:42:49 GMT 1
We looked rusty but what an effort to get the equaliser, some shot by Longridge, felt like a winner getting the point. The never say die attitude from our players is fantastic, really fancy us to get to the play offs final, would be sweet if it was against Dundee.
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Post by albert on Mar 14, 2018 12:32:23 GMT 1
I think we used the wrong tactics punting up the long ball ALL the time when we have talented players in the midfield. The game passed them by. To continue with that tactic after Lee Miller was taken from the game was pointless. The Morton defenders must have loved it. We were fortunate to score with the last kick of the ball to get a draw and one point.
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Post by misdemeanor on Mar 14, 2018 15:45:40 GMT 1
I think we used the wrong tactics punting up the long ball ALL the time when we have talented players in the midfield. The game passed them by. To continue with that tactic after Lee Miller was taken from the game was pointless. The Morton defenders must have loved it. We were fortunate to score with the last kick of the ball to get a draw and one point. Summed up poorly. We were great all over the park with desire and hunger as well as drive with Francis and Jose the old supporters in fine form not even able to shout abuse they sat for most of the game looking into space clueless how to resolve. Delighted at the point and second place (at the moment) but this league yes league is not for the taking. We were right in at them from the word go and we have the players to play ball to feet but actually last night they were not allowed to play due to the terrible tactics of the Morton players but it was a competitive tight match.2 points to Dundee United to help close the gap.PS no quibbles about our Red card hope the chap gets his head back up and help us to our next competitive victory. |
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 14, 2018 18:56:25 GMT 1
We should be down the bottom fighting to stay in the Championship but we're sitting second and still grumpy as feck fans on here moaning about it and making a derogatory name about a manager that's just got MoTM for Feb, couldn't make this shite up.
It was a below par performance due to not having a game for a fortnight and little training either, we did create some decent chances though and Gaston made a few good saves, as well as blocking one he knew little about, we have won games playing worse. Byrne's red card changed the game in Morton's favour though and we were looking to salvage a point, which we did, keeping Morton eight points below us. Fantasy thinking we can catch St Mirren, second is a fantastic achievement if we can get it, and both the manager and players have done an unbelievable job in getting us this chance, ridiculous to make disparaging remarks about them. And one thing you cannot fault is the effort from our players, unbelievable ending after conceding in the eighty eighth minute to score in the fourth minute of added time, huge point for us too.
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Post by misdemeanor on Mar 14, 2018 20:50:10 GMT 1
We should be down the bottom fighting to stay in the Championship but we're sitting second and still grumpy as feck fans on here moaning about it and making a derogatory name about a manager that's just got MoTM for Feb, couldn't make this shite up. It was a below par performance due to not having a game for a fortnight and little training either, we did create some decent chances though and Gaston made a few good saves, as well as blocking one he knew little about, we have won games playing worse. Byrne's red card changed the game in Morton's favour though and we were looking to salvage a point, which we did, keeping Morton eight points below us. Fantasy thinking we can catch St Mirren, second is a fantastic achievement if we can get it, and both the manager and players have done an unbelievable job in getting us this chance, ridiculous to make disparaging remarks about them. And one thing you cannot fault is the effort from our players, unbelievable ending after conceding in the eighty eighth minute to score in the fourth minute of added time, huge point for us too. I think you are slightly mistaken. Francis and Jose are the two supporters who quite openly shout some funny things during the match,it was not Mr Hopkins who is one of THE hotest talents Scotland has produced for a while in terms of leadership and management. He with the budget he has done a brilliant job in fact if we finish in playoff spot at all easily manager or the year if not decade. However we are fans and we are allowed to comment on this forum. We are a better side than we were last night we can play better we didnt and we ended up with a priceless point. Maybe because we have had it so good in the last few weeks some of us (me included) are looking for that continuation of how we have been performing then expecting a win because thats how we have played recently. You may also forgive us for being passionate about the club and players and do not want to see all that hard work and exceptional play go to waste and lose the ground we have gained. We are after all Livi FC. Oh just a point the Morton fan that was climbing over the seats on exit last night successfully breaking two has been filmed and evidence submitted. |
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 15, 2018 21:44:46 GMT 1
Disagree that the red card was justified, both of Byrne's yellows were laughable, they were fouls but were neither reckless nor dirty, Lithgow's yellow was also a joke, a Morton player did the exact same about 5 or 10 minutes later & we didn't even get the foul. Harkins could have been booked on numerous occasions for niggly fouls but only saw yellow for diving (& I admit I initially thought he was getting the pen when the ref whistled). Not sure which fans you are referring to but if you are naming them after the characters created by Rikki Fulton & Jack Milloy then I think you'll find they are Francie & Josie.
And good on you if you have submitted evidence of vandalism; just hope something is done about it.
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Post by misdemeanor on Mar 17, 2018 1:47:17 GMT 1
Disagree that the red card was justified, both of Byrne's yellows were laughable, they were fouls but were neither reckless nor dirty, Lithgow's yellow was also a joke, a Morton player did the exact same about 5 or 10 minutes later & we didn't even get the foul. Harkins could have been booked on numerous occasions for niggly fouls but only saw yellow for diving (& I admit I initially thought he was getting the pen when the ref whistled). Not sure which fans you are referring to but if you are naming them after the characters created by Rikki Fulton & Jack Milloy then I think you'll find they are Francie & Josie. And good on you if you have submitted evidence of vandalism; just hope something is done about it. Thank you for your comments. May I also comment about Jon Snow comment. The club is in a perilous financial situation finishing 8th to finishing 2nd could mean whether we are in existance next year quite simply because we dont have enough bums on seats at home games to pay our way. So its simple Jon boy WE need to finish 2nd or 3rd no quibbles so when we get bent out of shape for poor results its because we are looking at the bigger picture. And the Morton fan well I believe he "tripped" up on the way to his car as well, you just cant trust these pavements in West Lothian!! |
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Post by Bobi on Mar 17, 2018 1:48:09 GMT 1
We should be down the bottom fighting to stay in the Championship but we're sitting second and still grumpy as feck fans on here moaning about it and making a derogatory name about a manager that's just got MoTM for Feb, couldn't make this shite up. It was a below par performance due to not having a game for a fortnight and little training either, we did create some decent chances though and Gaston made a few good saves, as well as blocking one he knew little about, we have won games playing worse. Byrne's red card changed the game in Morton's favour though and we were looking to salvage a point, which we did, keeping Morton eight points below us. Fantasy thinking we can catch St Mirren, second is a fantastic achievement if we can get it, and both the manager and players have done an unbelievable job in getting us this chance, ridiculous to make disparaging remarks about them. And one thing you cannot fault is the effort from our players, unbelievable ending after conceding in the eighty eighth minute to score in the fourth minute of added time, huge point for us too. I find this comment highly offensive. No matter where we should be or where we shouldn't be. If you're a livingston supporter, you should believe we can win the league. Not sitting claiming 'we should be down the bottom fighting' what sort of support is that?? I think the last of your priorities is 'grumpy as feck fans'. I think maybe you should be thinking to yourself whether you're a supporter or not. Honestly. Totally embarrassed to be reading that. Fan?? Laughable. Sorry if you get offended by comment.  |
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 17, 2018 2:25:44 GMT 1
Disagree that the red card was justified, both of Byrne's yellows were laughable, they were fouls but were neither reckless nor dirty, Lithgow's yellow was also a joke, a Morton player did the exact same about 5 or 10 minutes later & we didn't even get the foul. Harkins could have been booked on numerous occasions for niggly fouls but only saw yellow for diving (& I admit I initially thought he was getting the pen when the ref whistled). Not sure which fans you are referring to but if you are naming them after the characters created by Rikki Fulton & Jack Milloy then I think you'll find they are Francie & Josie. And good on you if you have submitted evidence of vandalism; just hope something is done about it. Thank you for your comments. May I also comment about Jon Snow comment. The club is in a perilous financial situation finishing 8th to finishing 2nd could mean whether we are in existance next year quite simply because we dont have enough bums on seats at home games to pay our way. So its simple Jon boy WE need to finish 2nd or 3rd no quibbles so when we get bent out of shape for poor results its because we are looking at the bigger picture. And the Morton fan well I believe he "tripped" up on the way to his car as well, you just cant trust these pavements in West Lothian!! I have no idea what our finances are, but we're going to rake in a hell of a lot more than anyone expected this season, we've already made more in cup runs than expected and finishing second or third would bring in a couple of hundred thousand more than was expected in league prize money. I don't agree it was a poor result against Morton though, getting the draw kept the gap to eight points, which gives us a decent chance of finishing at least third, although form wise we're still doing a lot better than Utd so I doubt they'll win their games in hand and enough other games to catch us. That's eight games undefeated, six wins and two draws, if we can keep that going second place is ours. I'd love it if St Mirren slipped up and went on a bottle crashing run of defeats, but I can't see it, it would be unbelievable if they did though. Oh and i haven't given upon us being promoted through the play offs, i think we've a more realistic chance of doing that than winning the league. I think we have a good chance in the play offs too, I haven/t given up on us being promoted through the play offs, not with the season we are having. |
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 17, 2018 2:52:08 GMT 1
We should be down the bottom fighting to stay in the Championship but we're sitting second and still grumpy as feck fans on here moaning about it and making a derogatory name about a manager that's just got MoTM for Feb, couldn't make this shite up. It was a below par performance due to not having a game for a fortnight and little training either, we did create some decent chances though and Gaston made a few good saves, as well as blocking one he knew little about, we have won games playing worse. Byrne's red card changed the game in Morton's favour though and we were looking to salvage a point, which we did, keeping Morton eight points below us. Fantasy thinking we can catch St Mirren, second is a fantastic achievement if we can get it, and both the manager and players have done an unbelievable job in getting us this chance, ridiculous to make disparaging remarks about them. And one thing you cannot fault is the effort from our players, unbelievable ending after conceding in the eighty eighth minute to score in the fourth minute of added time, huge point for us too. I find this comment highly offensive. No matter where we should be or where we shouldn't be. If you're a livingston supporter, you should believe we can win the league. Not sitting claiming 'we should be down the bottom fighting' what sort of support is that?? I think the last of your priorities is 'grumpy as feck fans'. I think maybe you should be thinking to yourself whether you're a supporter or not. Honestly. Totally embarrassed to be reading that. Fan?? Laughable. Sorry if you get offended by comment. Highly offensive, behave, if that highly offends you maybe football forums aren't the best place for you to be. If you believe we can win the league then good for you, you're living in dreamland but no harm in dreaming. And there is a big difference from wanting/hoping we can win the league and actually rationally thinking we can win it. If any Livi fan believed we could win the league pre season i think their sanity would be seriously needing checked. Even now it would take a total collapse by St Mirren and Livi to win almost all our games, you're a bit deluded believing we can win the league. But hey, i'd be delighted if we did and you come back on here to quote this post to me and say you told me so. My point was with our budget we've no right being where we are and we're doing incredibly well this season, anyone thinking otherwise are living in the past and not paying attention on what has been happening at Livi since we were relegated. Our aim this season was eighth place and trying to consolidate our Championship status, we've exceeded that in spades, the players and management team are performing better than any Livi team has since we were relegated from the SPL, and on a fraction of the budget from past seasons too. No matter where we finish this season we should applaud their efforts, but I can't see us finishing lower than 3rd now. I reckon manager of the season is between Hoppy and Jack Ross. Read more: livifc.boards.net/thread/1548/livi-morton#ixzz59xjGUt8z |
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Post by Bobi on Mar 17, 2018 4:39:01 GMT 1
I find this comment highly offensive. No matter where we should be or where we shouldn't be. If you're a livingston supporter, you should believe we can win the league. Not sitting claiming 'we should be down the bottom fighting' what sort of support is that?? I think the last of your priorities is 'grumpy as feck fans'. I think maybe you should be thinking to yourself whether you're a supporter or not. Honestly. Totally embarrassed to be reading that. Fan?? Laughable. Sorry if you get offended by comment. Highly offensive, behave, if that highly offends you maybe football forums aren't the best place for you to be. If you believe we can win the league then good for you, you're living in dreamland but no harm in dreaming. And there is a big difference from wanting/hoping we can win the league and actually rationally thinking we can win it. If any Livi fan believed we could win the league pre season i think their sanity would be seriously needing checked. Even now it would take a total collapse by St Mirren and Livi to win almost all our games, you're a bit deluded believing we can win the league. But hey, i'd be delighted if we did and you come back on here to quote this post to me and say you told me so. My point was with our budget we've no right being where we are and we're doing incredibly well this season, anyone thinking otherwise are living in the past and not paying attention on what has been happening at Livi since we were relegated. Our aim this season was eighth place and trying to consolidate our Championship status, we've exceeded that in spades, the players and management team are performing better than any Livi team has since we were relegated from the SPL, and on a fraction of the budget from past seasons too. No matter where we finish this season we should applaud their efforts, but I can't see us finishing lower than 3rd now. I reckon manager of the season is between Hoppy and Jack Ross. Read more: livifc.boards.net/thread/1548/livi-morton#ixzz59xjGUt8zBehave? I'm not being funny but I have been watching this forum since the start of this season/couple of months before and majority/if not most of the stuff you say causes offence to everybody. So it's someone elses turn. I can perfectly handle what gets said in a football forum. Thank you As I said before I only believe we can win as I believe in our team. Shit manager or not. Shit players or not. Because they are the team I support. At the start of the season we were sticking hard to the middle of the league. Struggling. We have done well in my opinion, if you think its luck well you're welcome to think that. But we have climbed to second under a strong team and ahead of Dundee by 7 points whether or not they have 3 games in hand. (They do need to win those games to make a difference so we will wait and see before we include that) So as I said before, it was a joke to read that we should be fighting at the bottom. Stop picking out the faults in our team and start believing. Even if we finish this league in second, its still a huge boost in terms of financial gain. And thats what we need. We don't need folk like you thinking we shouldn't be that high up. We have a good team, and a good manager. You might not like him, but he's done his best on the budget that he has had, hes brought in players that has made a huge gain for the club (hardy and robinson) . I'm honestly so annoyed because I see 'fans' like you not having confidence in the team that you supposedly 'support'. Confidence is key. Maybe you should become a Brechin supporter if you honestly like the idea of fighting at the bottom of the league and see us going no where. |
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 17, 2018 11:30:09 GMT 1
If anyone has been offended by jonsnow's posts they must be incredibly insecure & extremely sensitive. Also find it incredible when people come on here with less than a grasp of basic English & even less understanding of the names of football clubs. Dundee are currently in the top tier, the team below us are Dundee United, if you don't think it matters try going in amongst the tangerine clad supporters next time they visit and yell "C'mon the 'Dee!!!"
JS did not at any stage say we are such a bad team we should be struggling or complain that the team is rubbish. On the contrary he has constantly praised the entire club for exceeding everyone's expectations. His suggestion is that, given we had just been promoted, cut the budget & cut the wage bill, then we really had no right to expect (or believe for that matter) we would challenge at the top end, & yet he was & always has been very positive in his belief, making a case for us challenging for 4th from the beginning of the season. So to suggest he has no confidence in the team is frankly laughable & really only indicates a lack of understanding basic English.
Of course every real fan wants their team to do well but wanting them to do well doesn't mean they will do well & if anyone really believed, before the season started, that we would win the division then they either don't know what believe means or they are greatly deluded. Now I will grant you that believing it was possible to win the division would have been ok because at the start of the season that was possible even for Brechin; however believing it was probable or that it would happen, well I'm sorry but that was simply deluded. (No offence intended but if it offends you, then be offended, you'll get over it)
As JS said, it beggars belief that we have folk on here complaining about results like Tuesday night's. We have no right to expect the team to win every game, even Man City haven't managed that, we need to really see the big picture, that point against the team immediately below us is an excellent result at this stage of the season as it maintains the gap & reduces the number of games left. Of course a win would have been better but given the way the game went, the draw was hard fought & well earned. Great credit goes to the players for regrouping after losing the 88th minute goal, redoubling their efforts with very little time remaining & pushing on to claim the last second equaliser. It also speaks volumes of the mind set that the management duo have instilled into them.
This has been a superb season that can be compared with our first ever season in the SPL when we were 3rd. We had just came up & were most people's favourites to go straight back down. The same was true at the start of this season with most observers suggesting us & Brechin as favourites to go back down.
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 19, 2018 13:58:36 GMT 1
Highly offensive, behave, if that highly offends you maybe football forums aren't the best place for you to be. If you believe we can win the league then good for you, you're living in dreamland but no harm in dreaming. And there is a big difference from wanting/hoping we can win the league and actually rationally thinking we can win it. If any Livi fan believed we could win the league pre season i think their sanity would be seriously needing checked. Even now it would take a total collapse by St Mirren and Livi to win almost all our games, you're a bit deluded believing we can win the league. But hey, i'd be delighted if we did and you come back on here to quote this post to me and say you told me so. My point was with our budget we've no right being where we are and we're doing incredibly well this season, anyone thinking otherwise are living in the past and not paying attention on what has been happening at Livi since we were relegated. Our aim this season was eighth place and trying to consolidate our Championship status, we've exceeded that in spades, the players and management team are performing better than any Livi team has since we were relegated from the SPL, and on a fraction of the budget from past seasons too. No matter where we finish this season we should applaud their efforts, but I can't see us finishing lower than 3rd now. I reckon manager of the season is between Hoppy and Jack Ross. Read more: livifc.boards.net/thread/1548/livi-morton#ixzz59xjGUt8zBehave? I'm not being funny but I have been watching this forum since the start of this season/couple of months before and majority/if not most of the stuff you say causes offence to everybody. So it's someone elses turn. I can perfectly handle what gets said in a football forum. Thank you As I said before I only believe we can win as I believe in our team. Shit manager or not. Shit players or not. Because they are the team I support. At the start of the season we were sticking hard to the middle of the league. Struggling. We have done well in my opinion, if you think its luck well you're welcome to think that. But we have climbed to second under a strong team and ahead of Dundee by 7 points whether or not they have 3 games in hand. (They do need to win those games to make a difference so we will wait and see before we include that) So as I said before, it was a joke to read that we should be fighting at the bottom. Stop picking out the faults in our team and start believing. Even if we finish this league in second, its still a huge boost in terms of financial gain. And thats what we need. We don't need folk like you thinking we shouldn't be that high up. We have a good team, and a good manager. You might not like him, but he's done his best on the budget that he has had, hes brought in players that has made a huge gain for the club (hardy and robinson) . I'm honestly so annoyed because I see 'fans' like you not having confidence in the team that you supposedly 'support'. Confidence is key. Maybe you should become a Brechin supporter if you honestly like the idea of fighting at the bottom of the league and see us going no where. Well I seem to have got under your skin anyway, your first two posts have been to have a go at me, and you've taken it upon yourself to speak for everyone, but to be honest, much like everything else you've said, it is total nonsense. As Auldnick has posted, you don't seem to have a grasp of what I've said, and are just making things up, never anywhere have I said our players or manager are shit, in fact the complete opposite is true, I've praised them to high heaven and said no matter where we finish it will be a fantastic achievement, we're currently sitting higher than any Livi team has had us since being relegated from the SPL, and on a lower budget too, remarkable job Hoppy and the players are doing. I said previously on our budget we have no right being second, you seem to have trouble understanding what that means, we've the lowest budget of the full time teams, and were expected to be down the bottom end of the table, Hoppy's remit was eighth place and staying in the Championship, that has been quoted in articles, so we're exceeding that and then some. But realistically we're not going to win the league, that isn't being defeatist, that's just plain for anyone not totally deluded to see, St Mirren would have to lose five of their last eight games and we'd need to win all of ours, i'd love it to happen but it just aint going to. Really don't see how you've got the wrong end of the stick on my posts, but you have. |
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 19, 2018 14:04:18 GMT 1
If anyone has been offended by jonsnow's posts they must be incredibly insecure & extremely sensitive. Also find it incredible when people come on here with less than a grasp of basic English & even less understanding of the names of football clubs. Dundee are currently in the top tier, the team below us are Dundee United, if you don't think it matters try going in amongst the tangerine clad supporters next time they visit and yell "C'mon the 'Dee!!!" JS did not at any stage say we are such a bad team we should be struggling or complain that the team is rubbish. On the contrary he has constantly praised the entire club for exceeding everyone's expectations. His suggestion is that, given we had just been promoted, cut the budget & cut the wage bill, then we really had no right to expect (or believe for that matter) we would challenge at the top end, & yet he was & always has been very positive in his belief, making a case for us challenging for 4th from the beginning of the season. So to suggest he has no confidence in the team is frankly laughable & really only indicates a lack of understanding basic English. Of course every real fan wants their team to do well but wanting them to do well doesn't mean they will do well & if anyone really believed, before the season started, that we would win the division then they either don't know what believe means or they are greatly deluded. Now I will grant you that believing it was possible to win the division would have been ok because at the start of the season that was possible even for Brechin; however believing it was probable or that it would happen, well I'm sorry but that was simply deluded. (No offence intended but if it offends you, then be offended, you'll get over it) As JS said, it beggars belief that we have folk on here complaining about results like Tuesday night's. We have no right to expect the team to win every game, even Man City haven't managed that, we need to really see the big picture, that point against the team immediately below us is an excellent result at this stage of the season as it maintains the gap & reduces the number of games left. Of course a win would have been better but given the way the game went, the draw was hard fought & well earned. Great credit goes to the players for regrouping after losing the 88th minute goal, redoubling their efforts with very little time remaining & pushing on to claim the last second equaliser. It also speaks volumes of the mind set that the management duo have instilled into them. This has been a superb season that can be compared with our first ever season in the SPL when we were 3rd. We had just came up & were most people's favourites to go straight back down. The same was true at the start of this season with most observers suggesting us & Brechin as favourites to go back down. I'm at a loss on what the hell she is going on about tbh, bewildering. It's like she's read someone else's post and is quoting me instead of the one she's talking about, bizarre. |
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Post by orco on Mar 19, 2018 15:29:46 GMT 1
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Post by Pedro on Mar 20, 2018 17:43:51 GMT 1
on our budget we have no right being second Does anyone actually know what our budget is and how, assuming we're spending more than we're bringing in, any accumulated debt will be repaid - to whoever it's owed to? |
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 23, 2018 17:19:10 GMT 1
on our budget we have no right being second Does anyone actually know what our budget is and how, assuming we're spending more than we're bringing in, any accumulated debt will be repaid - to whoever it's owed to? Don't know exact figures nope. Only that it is said to be the lowest of the FT teams and we actually cut the wage bill after the January transfer business. On the evidence of losing Buchanan to Raith Rovers and being outbid by Dunfermline and ICT for players we tried to sign I have no reason to disbelieve that. I don't think we're going to have a much better season than this one, between cup runs and sitting second in the league, only increasing our gate is going to bring in more money than we're going to be getting, or being promoted to the Premiership Hopefully that happens through the play offs, and that would perhaps help to entice lapsed fans back. |
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