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Post by colcal on Sept 8, 2016 15:30:02 GMT 1
It's a big game this Saturday, even so early in the season. Alloa have a 100% record in the league this season and are justifying their billing as favourites for promotion. It would be excellent if we had a large, upbeat and noisy travelling support to cheer on our lads. It's not that far, our record there is pretty good and the improvised stand for visiting fans always makes me laugh. Plus the pies are among the cheapest in Scotland. So, if you're swithering about going, please come along and bring your kids, your spouse, your neighbours or your mates and get right behind the team!
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 8, 2016 16:19:23 GMT 1
Hopefully the gate price doesn't put too many people off, Alloa still think they're playing in the Championship.
Also hope Longridge has recovered from his injury last week, we need our best starting eleven for this game. I think Mullin is deserving of another start, Cadden's form has dipped a bit since the Stranraer game but Mullin has looked good, Buchanan will be right up for it too after scoring his first Livi hattrick, and he scored against Alloa last season in our first away game against them.
Really looking forward to this game, I've a good feeling about it.
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Post by Pedro on Sept 8, 2016 20:05:01 GMT 1
I hope we pump this mob! See you behind the goals!
#COLTS
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 9, 2016 19:23:14 GMT 1
Alloa have a 100% record in all competitive games this season, including some notable higher divsion scalps. We will do well to get a draw. But should not be frightened of having a go at them.
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Post by Livi Lions SC on Sept 9, 2016 21:19:58 GMT 1
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Post by livijimbo on Sept 9, 2016 21:54:07 GMT 1
Looking forward to this top of table challenge
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Post by livijimbo on Sept 10, 2016 17:46:03 GMT 1
Come on ye Lions
#takeabow
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 10, 2016 20:18:54 GMT 1
Piece of pish, bring on Brechin.
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Post by ladywelllion on Sept 10, 2016 21:17:27 GMT 1
that was a great performance today, could have won by more but for some shocking refereeing decisions, good travelling support if only the fans came out the woodwork and gave the team their backing at home, I'm sure the team will respond
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 10, 2016 21:27:53 GMT 1
It should have been a clean sheet but for an atrocious piece of refereeing... If he thought it was a pen, why did he wait until Goodwin & co boxed him in before giving it? He didn't blow the whistle or point to the spot before then. If the lineo gave it he would have signalled with his flag across his chest, he didn't. All very strange.
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Post by livijimbo on Sept 10, 2016 22:17:45 GMT 1
It should have been a clean sheet but for an atrocious piece of refereeing... If he thought it was a pen, why did he wait until Goodwin & co boxed him in before giving it? He didn't blow the whistle or point to the spot before then. If the lineo gave it he would have signalled with his flag across his chest, he didn't. All very strange. It was a linesman decision. They were mic'd up he probably didn't hear him.
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 11, 2016 3:45:24 GMT 1
I don't care if they are mic'd up, he has a flag for a reason and if he thinks it is a pen he should hold his flag across his chest, he didn't do that at any time. Then if the ref didn't hear anything then he can't fail to see the visual signal. So it's still an atrocious piece of officiating, even if it was a correct decision, which I doubt.
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Post by livijimbo on Sept 11, 2016 9:10:42 GMT 1
I don't care if they are mic'd up, he has a flag for a reason and if he thinks it is a pen he should hold his flag across his chest, he didn't do that at any time. Then if the ref didn't hear anything then he can't fail to see the visual signal. So it's still an atrocious piece of officiating, even if it was a correct decision, which I doubt. Never seen a referee put his flag across his chest in Scotland. You do see it down south quite a bit. One thing we agree on it was bad decision
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Post by edinlivi on Sept 11, 2016 10:15:26 GMT 1
Great performance yesterday, although we were very wasteful in the second half. Luckily our first half performance meant that wasn't too much of an issue. Think we got a little lucky for the second goal, how that wasn't a foul on their full back I'll never know. However, the first thing kids are told about football is play to the whistle, so I've little sympathy on that front. Third goal was as good a goal as I can remember seeing live.
Thought Danny Mullen was superb yesterday - MOTM for me. He's certainly bulked up over the summer and likes to throw himself about a lot more (and to the ground..). The defence was excellent yesterday, too. They won just about every aerial challenge in the whole game.
Agree on what's been said about the referee, though. He missed a lot of clear fouls, especially from Goodwin who seems to coast through games getting away with murder.
All in all, pleasing to put the breaks on Alloa's winning streak. On to next week now!
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Post by livilion88 on Sept 11, 2016 10:44:43 GMT 1
Massive win yesterday against a good side. Before we scored we were really struggling to get to grips with them. I thought Halkett and lithgow were tremendous at the back , not sure why Byrne never started been really impressed with him. Miller done well and what a strike! Danny Mullen a real handful up front all game great match by him. Halkett my motm looks much better at CB. Cadden better yesterday to. All in all a great win which should give the team confidence
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 11, 2016 13:18:36 GMT 1
Great performance yesterday, although we were very wasteful in the second half. Luckily our first half performance meant that wasn't too much of an issue. Think we got a little lucky for the second goal, how that wasn't a foul on their full back I'll never know. However, the first thing kids are told about football is play to the whistle, so I've little sympathy on that front. Third goal was as good a goal as I can remember seeing live. Thought Danny Mullen was superb yesterday - MOTM for me. He's certainly bulked up over the summer and likes to throw himself about a lot more (and to the ground..). The defence was excellent yesterday, too. They won just about every aerial challenge in the whole game. Agree on what's been said about the referee, though. He missed a lot of clear fouls, especially from Goodwin who seems to coast through games getting away with murder. All in all, pleasing to put the breaks on Alloa's winning streak. On to next week now! Really? I actually thought it was a foul on Cadden, their player ran into him obstructing Cadden to stop him getting to the ball and thought it would run out of play, some may say he was shielding the ball but how far from the ball do you have to be before it is obstruction and not shielding, he made no attempt to play the ball and even go anywhere near it. Cadden broke free of him and ran around him onto the ball to keep it in play. I agree with you on the next bit, he should've played to the whistle instead of standing there having a tantrum about not getting his way. Best game Cadden has had for a while, maybe because Mullin was on the other wing helped him, I prefer having both Mullin and Cadden play. Thought the 3 at the back with 2 wingers worked really well. Crighton made surging runs and put in a lot of crosses too, and the back 3 were immense, though Alloa made it easy for them playing so many high balls over the top, meat and potatoes for our 3 CB's to deal with. Best game I've seen Mullen have this season, ran himself into the ground and showed real strength holding off players, must give Goodwin sleepless nights knowing he's got Mullen to mark. If the ref was half decent Goodwin would've been sent off the amount of fouls he committed. Also thought Pittman was outstanding, him and Mullen are huge players for us this season. Buchanan, Mullen and Pittman all on 4 league goals and equal 2nd league one top goal scorers.
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Post by edinlivi on Sept 11, 2016 14:39:51 GMT 1
Great performance yesterday, although we were very wasteful in the second half. Luckily our first half performance meant that wasn't too much of an issue. Think we got a little lucky for the second goal, how that wasn't a foul on their full back I'll never know. However, the first thing kids are told about football is play to the whistle, so I've little sympathy on that front. Third goal was as good a goal as I can remember seeing live. Thought Danny Mullen was superb yesterday - MOTM for me. He's certainly bulked up over the summer and likes to throw himself about a lot more (and to the ground..). The defence was excellent yesterday, too. They won just about every aerial challenge in the whole game. Agree on what's been said about the referee, though. He missed a lot of clear fouls, especially from Goodwin who seems to coast through games getting away with murder. All in all, pleasing to put the breaks on Alloa's winning streak. On to next week now! Really? I actually thought it was a foul on Cadden, their player ran into him obstructing Cadden to stop him getting to the ball and thought it would run out of play, some may say he was shielding the ball but how far from the ball do you have to be before it is obstruction and not shielding, he made no attempt to play the ball and even go anywhere near it. Cadden broke free of him and ran around him onto the ball to keep it in play. I agree with you on the next bit, he should've played to the whistle instead of standing there having a tantrum about not getting his way. Best game Cadden has had for a while, maybe because Mullin was on the other wing helped him, I prefer having both Mullin and Cadden play. Thought the 3 at the back with 2 wingers worked really well. Crighton made surging runs and put in a lot of crosses too, and the back 3 were immense, though Alloa made it easy for them playing so many high balls over the top, meat and potatoes for our 3 CB's to deal with. Best game I've seen Mullen have this season, ran himself into the ground and showed real strength holding off players, must give Goodwin sleepless nights knowing he's got Mullen to mark. If the ref was half decent Goodwin would've been sent off the amount of fouls he committed. Also thought Pittman was outstanding, him and Mullen are huge players for us this season. Buchanan, Mullen and Pittman all on 4 league goals and equal 2nd league one top goal scorers. We'll have to agree to disagree then. I know how aggrieved I would feel if Livingston conceded a goal like that. Either way, we did the right thing - kept playing and took our goal well. Cadden's delivery was excellent yesterday, contributing two great assists. Although I have to say that I think other than that he was fairly quiet throughout the game. However, I'm not going to grumble too much given the two goals that he essentially laid on a plate! It's so pleasing that we seem to have real strength in depth this season, the players who are on the bench are more than capable of coming on and making an impact on the game!
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 11, 2016 17:42:39 GMT 1
I think it was 6 of the defender and half a dozen of Cadden, essentially a battle of strength which Cadden won, the defender's strop was hilarious.
One of the reasons I think Goodwin would have been a good signing for us is his ability to avoid bookings and getting penalised. That said, I think we have recruited well and he wouldn't fit in. I disagree that he has sleepless nights before coming up against Mullen because he always gets away with it, largely because Mullen goes to ground too easily. When he stays on his feet he is much more of a problem, Goodwin knows he just has to touch him lightly, he'll go down and the ref will wave at Mullen to get up.
Still not sure what Lewis Allan brings to the party as we have yet to utilise his height.
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 11, 2016 19:35:13 GMT 1
By just having to touch him you mean falling on top of him and holding on around his waist wrestling Mullen to the ground, aye that would do it. Mullen had the better of Goodwin just about every time he was up against him and the only way Goodwin could stop him was to foul him, it was the same last season when they both played against one another and Goodwin got hooked before HT as the ref was decent enough to book him for his fouls on Mullen but should actually have given him a 2nd yellow before the St Mirren manager hooked him. If we get a half decent ref Mullen will have a field day playing against Goodwin. I agree when he stays on his feet he causes problems to defenders, but he's looking far stronger this season and isn't going to ground as much as he used to. In fact he fell in the box, didn't get a penalty so got straight back up and nipped in between the defender and the ball, hald the defender off and passed the ball to set up an attack. Just shows how strong he is when he wants to be.
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Post by colcal on Sept 11, 2016 20:42:02 GMT 1
I thought our three centre backs were excellent yesterday, Crighton, Halkett and Lithgow stood up to anything they could offer aerially and were strong throughout. Camden and Mullin tried to fill in from wide areas and did so, most of the time. Pittman is always impressive and yesterday was no different. Adding goals to his game is making him one of our most valuable players. Goodwin should have been booked, at least once, in the first half. Had he been, we'd have taken even more advantage. But I'm happy to focus on our positives. Lots of them. Onwards to the Brechin game next week. We look as though we can score from all over the park. Such a contrast from last season when we relied entirely on White and Buchanan. I hope those who were calling for Hopkins' head would at least congratulate him on transforming the squad and the style of play. It's attacking, with pace and width, and we look like scoring every week. The Queens Park game aside, we've scored freely. Enjoying the season so far.
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 11, 2016 21:16:10 GMT 1
By just having to touch him you mean falling on top of him and holding on around his waist wrestling Mullen to the ground, aye that would do it. Mullen had the better of Goodwin just about every time he was up against him and the only way Goodwin could stop him was to foul him, it was the same last season when they both played against one another and Goodwin got hooked before HT as the ref was decent enough to book him for his fouls on Mullen but should actually have given him a 2nd yellow before the St Mirren manager hooked him. If we get a half decent ref Mullen will have a field day playing against Goodwin. I agree when he stays on his feet he causes problems to defenders, but he's looking far stronger this season and isn't going to ground as much as he used to. In fact he fell in the box, didn't get a penalty so got straight back up and nipped in between the defender and the ball, hald the defender off and passed the ball to set up an attack. Just shows how strong he is when he wants to be. You misunderstand me, yes he fouled Mullen and got away with it but he gets away with it because of the times he doesn't actually foul him (which happened now and again) and Mullen still goes down. In other words, it is well known that Mullen goes down too easily, his reputation precedes him, Goodwin plays on that and gets away with fouling him. Mullen needs to stay on his feet and beat him with skill and pace. I agree also that Mullen is staying on his feet more this season but he needs to do it even more than he is. He has set up numerous goals/chances already by doing just that. Your final sentence sums it up nicely. He needs to stop looking for fouls, play to the whistle and he will either get free or will be genuinely fouled (obviously he doesn't want to be hurt, which is why I think he goes looking for the foul.)
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 12, 2016 1:17:04 GMT 1
By just having to touch him you mean falling on top of him and holding on around his waist wrestling Mullen to the ground, aye that would do it. Mullen had the better of Goodwin just about every time he was up against him and the only way Goodwin could stop him was to foul him, it was the same last season when they both played against one another and Goodwin got hooked before HT as the ref was decent enough to book him for his fouls on Mullen but should actually have given him a 2nd yellow before the St Mirren manager hooked him. If we get a half decent ref Mullen will have a field day playing against Goodwin. I agree when he stays on his feet he causes problems to defenders, but he's looking far stronger this season and isn't going to ground as much as he used to. In fact he fell in the box, didn't get a penalty so got straight back up and nipped in between the defender and the ball, hald the defender off and passed the ball to set up an attack. Just shows how strong he is when he wants to be. You misunderstand me, yes he fouled Mullen and got away with it but he gets away with it because of the times he doesn't actually foul him (which happened now and again) and Mullen still goes down. In other words, it is well known that Mullen goes down too easily, his reputation precedes him, Goodwin plays on that and gets away with fouling him. Mullen needs to stay on his feet and beat him with skill and pace. I agree also that Mullen is staying on his feet more this season but he needs to do it even more than he is. He has set up numerous goals/chances already by doing just that. Your final sentence sums it up nicely. He needs to stop looking for fouls, play to the whistle and he will either get free or will be genuinely fouled (obviously he doesn't want to be hurt, which is why I think he goes looking for the foul.) We almost agree but Mullen did actually get awarded fouls the odd time from the ref when Goodwin rugby tackled him to the ground, but for some reason the ref didn't see that as a booking, had we seen a stronger ref that would hand Goodwin a card then he'd be a certainty to be taken off by his manager or sent off for a 2nd booking because he just couldn't cope with Mullen's pace and skill without fouling him.
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 12, 2016 7:03:46 GMT 1
Yes he did, but they were the most obvious fouls, Goodwin is sneaky (or clever if he is in your team) and often commits fouls that are difficult to spot, it is Mullen's tendency to go down on those occasions, when the ref hasn't spotted it and when he COULD stay on his feet, that helps him get away with it.
Goodwin also got lucky a couple of times on Saturday, when he made mistakes but the ball bounced or rolled the wrong way for us to capitalise on it. That is one of the reasons I now think he wouldn't fit into our team, whereas before we were signing players I thought he'd be a good addition to the squad.
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Post by Pedro on Sept 13, 2016 15:55:02 GMT 1
Goodwin should have seen red for his blatant deliberate handball right in front of the ref and then for his blatant rugby tackle on Mullen shortly after on the edge of the box. The ref had a shocker!
Glad we got it round Alloa on Saturday to take them down a peg or two.
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