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Post by The Lions' Den on Mar 14, 2016 17:23:10 GMT 1
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Post by misdemeanor on Mar 16, 2016 10:35:48 GMT 1
Feel a must win game, we need to catch Dumbarton otherwise by the looks of the First division it could be Peterhead in the play off assuming they beat Ayr, or it could be Ayr, either one I do not fancy especially Ayr away from home. I think St Mirren are safe and it would take them to lose all their remaining games to drop into our position. On the run in we should not fear anyone, great if we could go on a run and win all remaining games.
On the back of any play off all games I believe this season are live on TV from all divisions I read somewhere??? assuming this is the case then the reward would be some much needed income for the close season? Every cloud.....
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Post by edinlivi on Mar 16, 2016 18:27:14 GMT 1
If we are to avoid the play-off place this has to go down as a must win game.
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Post by misdemeanor on Mar 16, 2016 19:09:43 GMT 1
If we are to avoid the play-off place this has to go down as a must win game. Absolutely, and we need numbers / bums on seats supporting the club, a decent crowd to back the boys, vital we bring a decent home support...
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 16, 2016 20:28:29 GMT 1
Tend to agree...I actually agree with Misdemeanor (I'll need a wee lie down I think!) Saints are safe & if we have any aspirations to catch Dumbarton this is a must win...but we won't
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 17, 2016 0:53:43 GMT 1
Saints aren't safe yet, if we beat them on Sat then they are still well within our reach. In fact QoS better get their act together and beat Dumbarton or they wont be safe either, the bad run they're on all it would take is a couple of Livi wins and the odd draw and we'd be going into our game against them with the possibility of putting them into the play offs.
We've a really good last two games against QoS and Raith, i'd fancy us taking 6 points from those games if we stay on our usual end of season form.
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 17, 2016 23:36:16 GMT 1
Ever the optimist JS
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Post by Pedro on Mar 18, 2016 10:34:07 GMT 1
Big game! I hope we pump them!
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Post by bawbag on Mar 18, 2016 22:05:01 GMT 1
The saints are probably the worst team I have seen at the vale this season (beside Livi ) and the stole a 1-0 victory ...lets do it Livi
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 19, 2016 1:10:38 GMT 1
You can't have seen Alloa then
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Post by Mr Angry on Mar 19, 2016 13:37:09 GMT 1
I don't hold much hope that the worst Livi squad and backroom team in living memory will rescue anything from this game. The relegation playoffs await. Prove me wrong, please!
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Post by colcal on Mar 19, 2016 14:00:59 GMT 1
We've had some serious improvements in the last few weeks. We've taken more points , kept clean sheets, freshened up the squad and looked much harder to beat. We've looked much sharper and fitter too. I know that our training is much tougher now than before and when compared to some Premiership clubs, according to one of the loan players. Great to see that Pittman and Halkett have extended their deals and that the club has tied up young Liam Watt on a pre-contract agreement from Airdrie. Credit to David Hopkin for all of those points and improvements. St Mirren have improved too since Alex Rae has taken over. But they haven't won away from home for a bit. Strangely, there has never been a home win in games between the sides. Let's hope that changes today. I'm going for a 2-1 victory to Livi.
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Post by Mr Angry on Mar 19, 2016 16:20:15 GMT 1
Good grief! Radio Scotland unable to broadcast live from Almondvale - the line is broken.
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Post by sjw21 on Mar 19, 2016 17:59:21 GMT 1
Absolutely appalling. Darren Cole footballer? I think he slept with a footballer!! Gave away 2 goals and the 3rd was an excellent finish from the boy.
Think that's us confirmed in the play offs, which playing like that we are going down.
Credit to White and Buchanan both played well, I'm usually first to criticise White but his work rate was brilliant today.
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Post by edinlivi on Mar 19, 2016 18:56:42 GMT 1
I agree on the Darren Cole comments, but not on how we played.
How Cole continues to play I'll never know. Had a nightmare away at Dumbarton, gave away a simple goal at Raith, made numerous mistakes at home to Dumbarton and was abysmal again today. The penalty was ridiculous today, there was absolutely no need in lunging in like that. The second goal was just pathetic defending, he was far too weak. He almost gave away a third goal before coming off to round off a woeful performance. Really pissed me off to see him coming off having a laugh with Hopkin, just goes to show how little he cares about our eventual position.
Other than that I actually think we played reasonably well. Telfer looks a class act, I'd love to keep him next season but can't see that happening.
I've resigned myself to the play-offs now as it would take miracles to get out of this with the games we have left to play!
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Post by sjw21 on Mar 19, 2016 19:07:30 GMT 1
I agree on the Darren Cole comments, but not on how we played. How Cole continues to play I'll never know. Had a nightmare away at Dumbarton, gave away a simple goal at Raith, made numerous mistakes at home to Dumbarton and was abysmal again today. The penalty was ridiculous today, there was absolutely no need in lunging in like that. The second goal was just pathetic defending, he was far too weak. He almost gave away a third goal before coming off to round off a woeful performance. Really pissed me off to see him coming off having a laugh with Hopkin, just goes to show how little he cares about our eventual position. Other than that I actually think we played reasonably well. Telfer looks a class act, I'd love to keep him next season but can't see that happening. I've resigned myself to the play-offs now as it would take miracles to get out of this with the games we have left to play! Your right it wasn't the whole team that was more of an annoyed rant. Got talking to my dad on the way home and we actually said the team weren't bad except Cole. I'd personally drop Cole and play neil in the next match.
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Post by monkeysocks on Mar 19, 2016 21:24:35 GMT 1
Thought Simon Mensing had come back to haunt us today. Another defender in Cole who is reluctant to do the simple things and wants to be a footballer. The other lads worked their socks off only to have all good work twice getting back into the game undermined by reckless play. Frustrating.
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Post by cwaig on Mar 20, 2016 0:17:14 GMT 1
I'm totally in agreement. We simply aren't good enough at the back and lately Cole has been the main underperforming player. There is no point in scoring goals if you leak more through kamikazee defending, or simply not being good enough to do the basics. The play-offs are looking highly likely now.
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 20, 2016 0:19:55 GMT 1
Hopkin set the team out well (other than Longridge anyway, was he injured? ) we had a nice balance to the team with wide players getting down the wing and the strikers both scoring. Just a pity Cole keeps getting a game, hopefully his being subbed is the manager finally dropping him. Neill almost made an impact right away when he headed the ball off the bar from a corner too, did more in 2 mins than Cole did all game for us.
Dumbarton being humped silly by QoS and Alloa losing was great for us, just a shame we couldn't take advantage of it. Still our GD is so much better than Dumbarton's so we only need to catch up with them, only 5 points behind. We're at least scoring goals and looking a lot better in attack, and if we drop Cole we'll have a decent chance of making up that deficit on Dumbarton.
It aint over till the fat lady sings and she's still only sipping on her cup of tea and honey.
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 20, 2016 10:24:38 GMT 1
Cole had a mare from start to being subbed. Can't see him being dropped though...seems to be a Hopkin favourite, I got the impression that his subbing was to protect him from the escalating level of audible panic amongst the fans whenever he got the ball.
Monkeysocks I understand your frustration but you paint a false picture; our good work in getting back into the game twice wasn't undermined by Cole's mistakes; his mistakes came first & put us in a hole that we did well to get out of twice. So credit to the lads for that.
I was also disappointed with other aspects yesterday; McCallum's kicking was off, he's usually reliable but was sending it out of play too often. Stanton showed some excellent flashes of play but was largely on the periphery of the action rather than being influential. Buchanan has turned into a ball hog in the box even when a team mate (White on a few occasions yesterday) was in a better scoring position. We were causing them problems when we were running at them all match but we resorted to pumping high balls which Webster & Co started coping with easily. Telfer was quite high up the pitch in the first half & causing problems but was dropped deeper to accommodate going with 3 strikers. We lost his threat when we did that & the aforementioned high balls ensued.
That said we were always in the game & showed fight & effort that had we shown earlier in the season would have had us in a better position now.
Finally, the ref: all game long he allowed players to take throw-ins 10 yards further forward than where they should have but on one occasion he pulled Halkett up for it & gave Saints the ball in a dangerous area. What was that all about? He allowed blatant shoves to happen all over the place (including one on White in the box) & then penalised Sheerin for a perfectly executed shoulder-shoulder challenge. His far side assistant flagged Buchanan offside when he was nowhere near the ball but the near side assistant didn't flag a Saints player who ran for the ball, almost touched it, then stopped & let his onside team mate take over; both occasions favoured Saints. He should be applauded for trying to allow advantage at times but was then consistently pulling play back up to 10 seconds later when Saints lost any advantage; surely that is too long a gap?
As JS says it ain't over yet but our run-in is not easy. We need some points from unexpected places & we need to make sure we make no mistake against the poorer sides we still have to play. I suspect it will be play-offs but where a month ago I would have said that would guarantee the drop, we are playing better & could come good when it matters (for a change!)
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Post by monkeysocks on Mar 20, 2016 14:16:52 GMT 1
Auldnick , I take your point on board . What I was trying to get across, and failed, is that despite getting back into the game twice, Cole still could not be relied upon to do the simple thing. He put us under pressure more than once until his eventual substitution. Onwards and upwards, I'll be at next weeks game despite what my shrink says.
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Post by jonsnow on Mar 20, 2016 15:30:29 GMT 1
Good observations on the officials, couldn't understand the Buchanan offside one when he was nowhere near the ball, then allowing their offside player to actually run towards the ball, and having an influence on the game by putting off one of our players which allowed their onside player to get the ball. The push on White to stop him heading the ball was ridiculous, blatant foul on White inside the box. I actually thought pushes on players were allowed until late in the 2nd half when the ref actually gave a foul for one. White grabbed a player and pushed him down too and wasn't penalised for it, was in their box right enough so would only have been a foul.
And yes Buchanan was a bit too greedy at times when players were in far better positions to score. I'm all for a player having a dig on sight of goal but he was closed down and didn't have a hope of scoring when White was unmarked for a tap in if he'd squared it. He did the same at Alloa when Telfer and Kakay were in on goal but elected to take over and lose the ball when he was in a worse position than they were. Both worked their socks off yesterday and got a goal each but it's a team game and Buchanan needs to be a team player with White.
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Post by Benedict Le Gauche on Mar 20, 2016 17:45:55 GMT 1
Cole regularly plays as though still under the influence. Captain?
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Post by Auldnick on Mar 21, 2016 0:06:53 GMT 1
Auldnick , I take your point on board . What I was trying to get across, and failed, is that despite getting back into the game twice, Cole still could not be relied upon to do the simple thing. He put us under pressure more than once until his eventual substitution. Onwards and upwards, I'll be at next weeks game despite what my shrink says. Good clarification, certainly agree with this, he did not learn from his mistakes and very nearly gave away a 3rd goal or 2nd penalty immediately before our 2nd equaliser; and even after that he was making awful passes to put us under unnecessary pressure.
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