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Post by jonsnow on Oct 16, 2015 14:44:44 GMT 1
It has been a while since we've had a home game, even longer since we had a home win, here's hoping we get our first 3 points at home this season on Saturday.
Not heard of any new injuries so probably be the same starting eleven as Dumbarton, though I'd rather see Gibbons start than either Cole or Faria. Mullen coming on as sub should be fun after his last game against them.
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Post by colcal on Oct 16, 2015 19:33:56 GMT 1
I have to admit that I'd like to see Moses Duckrell. Hopefully the recent lull in games has benefitted his recovery. He's essentially a new signing for us and, if he's as fast as he's purported to be, then it could give the whole squad a boost. Pace always causes problems for defences and, even if he's not scoring himself, he may just be part of the answer.
There are plenty of positive signs in our play and I'm confident that these will start to convert to points.
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Post by Auldnick on Oct 16, 2015 23:38:31 GMT 1
I thought I read that Cole was out for some time?
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Post by drwho on Oct 17, 2015 9:32:23 GMT 1
Fairly stable flying conditions to Tony Macaroni Arena today. Just warming up the tardis just now before departing.
Livingston 1 St Mirren 3
I hope I am wrong but that's my gut feeling - see you all later need to dash
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Post by livijimbo on Oct 17, 2015 10:37:16 GMT 1
Feeling positive about this game. 3-2 to the Amber team
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Post by bawbag on Oct 17, 2015 12:43:15 GMT 1
Can't see us winning today even though we did well at their stadium ...the macaroni arena jinx to continue 1-2
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Post by misdemeanor on Oct 17, 2015 17:27:32 GMT 1
Not too disappointed with the result today, felt we played very well, probably the best at home so far. Could not do anything about the goal, it was a cracker, I stood and applauded it with some daggers from the home support however great goal.
Missed penalty early on in the first half was unfortunate but I saw enough in the play today especially in the second half where we created a bundle of chances, to ensure that as we progress during the second half of the season putting some of these chances away will keep us from the automatic drop zone.
Did not get a chance to see Moses in action, I agree a key player, instead Jordon White supported both strikers who worked well throughout the game. Just a pity we could not finish any chances, but delighted with the performance and true grit of the team, great game today.
Only downfall is the cost again to the directors forcing again more money from them due to the crowd being only 1199. My calculation makes that £17 x 401 = £6801 to keep us going for another week.
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Post by colcal on Oct 17, 2015 18:13:47 GMT 1
How on earth we didn't win that game today will haunt me. So many chances - enough to win 3 games.
Thought St Mirren were really poor, very cynical and typically 'professional'. Cracking goal but that was probably their only shot. Time wasting throughout and Janie Langfield was embarrassing himself with the time wasting techniques from the moment they scored for the rest of the game. No wonder attendances are plummeting.
We were the better team throughout and came away with nothing. That's a sign of team in trouble. But, yet again, there are plenty of positives and I can't believe we will be bottom of the league in half a dozen games from now.
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Post by edinlivi on Oct 17, 2015 18:22:48 GMT 1
Today was very frustrating, don't know how we didn't score today. As soon as St Mirren scored, they just sat back and didn't press on too much, which allowed us to control the second half. It doesn't matter though, that's two games in a row that we have deserved something from and have taken nothing away from, and as colcal says, that's a sign of a team in trouble.
How long do we go on with 'taking positives from the game'? If we don't take any points from the game it makes no difference. As much as I hate to say it, I think it is time for Burchill to go despite the more positive performance today and his heroics last season. The bottom line is that we have lost 8 games out of our first 10 in a results driven business. I don't understand how the team is not gelling together, as I think we have some really good individual players and think that we have a considerably better team than last season.
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Post by bawbag on Oct 17, 2015 19:38:06 GMT 1
Need to practise shooting on Monday mornings ...Otherwise decent performance
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Post by Auldnick on Oct 18, 2015 0:48:43 GMT 1
How on earth we didn't win that game today will haunt me. So many chances - enough to win 3 games. Thought St Mirren were really poor, very cynical and typically 'professional'. Cracking goal but that was probably their only shot. Time wasting throughout and Janie Langfield was embarrassing himself with the time wasting techniques from the moment they scored for the rest of the game. No wonder attendances are plummeting. We were the better team throughout and came away with nothing. That's a sign of team in trouble. But, yet again, there are plenty of positives and I can't believe we will be bottom of the league in half a dozen games from now. There was another shot by them from distance that swerved a bit but McCallum blocked/scooped it away for a corner. I think we'd have pasted them if the pen had gone in. They were poor but unfortunately our finishing was rank & from time to time we didn't shoot when the chance was there to do so. Still need more in midfield, Pittman needs creative help, Gibbons is relatively tidy but is usually a square or backwards pass. Longridge gets in to acres of space & rarely gets the ball. It was terrific link up play that won the pen but we didn't see enough of that during the rest of the game. |
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Post by toplion on Oct 18, 2015 9:19:34 GMT 1
It's hard to see our shape at times in games.
Regardless of the performance it will be recoded as another defeat and another step towards relegation.
That's 2 teams in the last 2 games we should have picked up points and we haven't.
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Post by misdemeanor on Oct 18, 2015 10:37:20 GMT 1
We all have said something positive about yesterdays game, I think we can see the makings of the team, its taken time but I feel we have to stick with MB over DH to be honest. Roll on Tuesday, maybe not get anything out the game but a good game to experiment and try new things. Remember we are not too far off the pace wasn't a disastrous result yesterday I am sure we will start picking up points. Well done Livi again, keep up what we displayed yesterday and our league position will dramatically improve.
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Post by toplion on Oct 18, 2015 10:56:47 GMT 1
We all have said something positive about yesterdays game, I think we can see the makings of the team, its taken time but I feel we have to stick with MB over DH to be honest. Roll on Tuesday, maybe not get anything out the game but a good game to experiment and try new things. Remember we are not too far off the pace wasn't a disastrous result yesterday I am sure we will start picking up points. Well done Livi again, keep up what we displayed yesterday and our league position will dramatically improve. We've being saying that for weeks and the results haven't appeared. How long do you wait? Everyone was was saying we should be picking up points from Alloa, Dumbarton & St Mirren. All we've managed is Alloa and can't help but think we should have picked up some points from our last 2 games. If Burchill (as rumoured) did give the whole squad all last weekend off then shame on him as even if the squad weren't training then an opportunity for team building. |
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Post by edinlivi on Oct 18, 2015 16:44:34 GMT 1
If we wait much longer, we'll be buried and a new manager would be powerless to save us..
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Post by livilad2001 on Oct 18, 2015 22:25:24 GMT 1
They need to learn too shoot the amount of chances we had we could have maybe had the ball in the net if they had a shot
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Post by Auldnick on Oct 19, 2015 0:35:56 GMT 1
They had plenty of shots livilad but none went in as you know; they certainly could & should have shot at other times though
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Post by Auldnick on Oct 19, 2015 0:37:52 GMT 1
We all have said something positive about yesterdays game, I think we can see the makings of the team, its taken time but I feel we have to stick with MB over DH to be honest. Roll on Tuesday, maybe not get anything out the game but a good game to experiment and try new things. Remember we are not too far off the pace wasn't a disastrous result yesterday I am sure we will start picking up points. Well done Livi again, keep up what we displayed yesterday and our league position will dramatically improve. We've being saying that for weeks and the results haven't appeared. How long do you wait? Everyone was was saying we should be picking up points from Alloa, Dumbarton & St Mirren. All we've managed is Alloa and can't help but think we should have picked up some points from our last 2 games. If Burchill (as rumoured) did give the whole squad all last weekend off then shame on him as even if the squad weren't training then an opportunity for team building. We were saying it from November to March last season. |
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Post by orco on Oct 19, 2015 10:35:05 GMT 1
We are no getting the rub of the green in the way that Dumbarton and St Mirren did in the last two games. Apparently, according to 'them that know', this is what happens when you are bottom of the league. But 'them that know' also say that it all evens itself over the season so we are due something soon. Well that is if 'them that know' are right. Right?  |
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Post by Mr Angry on Oct 19, 2015 12:29:28 GMT 1
It's taken me this long to calm down! We got what we deserved. Nothing! It's week after week of excuses and we're still at the foot of the table. It's not good enough. A good board would be looking at their options right now because it's clear Burchill doesn't have the wherewithal to turn this slump around.
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Post by jonsnow on Oct 19, 2015 14:11:52 GMT 1
It's frustrating that we're creating plenty of chances, having more clear cut chances than the other team, and having more of the game attacking wise but still come away losing.
I can only think that we're tightening up too much in front of goal and if Buchanan had scored the penalty we'd have relaxed a bit and the goals would have flowed. The longer this run goes on the more anxious the players and fans will get.
Yes we can only keep saying the same things so many times, that we're the better team etc etc, and there comes a point where we have to believe we're just not good enough and bottom is where we deserve to be, but I'm not quite there yet, I still believe we're better than Alloa, Dumbarton, St Mirren and Morton and we'll come good.
Not quite sure why Burchill cops the flak so much when we've dominated games, created enough clear chances to win the games but can't even score with a penalty, if we were playing badly and creating nothing then fine, but that isn't what's happening. I don't agree with some of his player selection and he's a young manager still learning, but still don't see how sacking him will magically improve our situation. Also don't know who would want to come to Livi that would do a better job.
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Post by jonsnow on Oct 19, 2015 14:42:06 GMT 1
We've being saying that for weeks and the results haven't appeared. How long do you wait? Everyone was was saying we should be picking up points from Alloa, Dumbarton & St Mirren. All we've managed is Alloa and can't help but think we should have picked up some points from our last 2 games. If Burchill (as rumoured) did give the whole squad all last weekend off then shame on him as even if the squad weren't training then an opportunity for team building. We were saying it from November to March last season. Indeed, and it eventually came good.
Fans don't want to give managers time to turn things around, they want instant fixes.
We aren't far away with things on the pitch and the new managers bounce would probably be enough for the players to lift things to get a win or two but then it would settle back down and we'd be in the exact same situation. We've sacked managers every season and there has been no magic fix, off field problems have contributed to where we find ourselves far more than anything else. Things have settled down a bit but the problems are still there, Nixon is still hanging around (was at the Alloa game), McDougall is still owed money, Rankine wont have disappeared with the money he's invested either, and the new guys are still a bit mysterious with what their plans are.
A new manager coming in wont change those off field court cases and power struggles, he'll have to muddle along with the scraps he gets just the same as Buchill has, and if he's lucky he'll actually get a pre season where he can build a team without any embargoes.
I think we're actually lucky to have a team at all this season considering the shit that was happening during pre season, also think Burchill deserves credit for sticking around, because if he'd decided to get away from the mad house that is Livi then dear knows who else would've come near us. Still don't know who would want to touch the managers job at Livi, certainly no one with any decent credentials, we'd have another rookie starting out trying his luck at Livi, or an older journeyman type ex manager that's been out of the game for a while. |
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Post by colcal on Oct 19, 2015 15:11:06 GMT 1
I can't see how the manager can be responsible for the team failing to score - we missed a penalty, a couple of sitters, a few other decent chances and were beater by a screamer from 25 yards into the top corner (their only real chance in the game). We had at least 60% of the possession, probably more in the second half.
If we were being hammered every week, not creating chances and looking down in the dumps, then fair enough. But it's clear that there are good performances and that we should be winning game - competing strongly in most games - so changing manager now would almost certainly be a recipe for disaster. A new manager would have to use the same squad until January and, even then, would have no funds to make serious changes.
I've seen enough - and continue to see enough - to remain optimistic. Forget the cup game at the Sports Direct Arena tomorrow night but focus on picking up league points. That's what matters.
Let's get behind the team and the manager. Supporters need to support!
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Post by livilad2001 on Oct 19, 2015 16:30:59 GMT 1
They had plenty of shots livilad but none went in as you know; they certainly could & should have shot at other times though Yes I agree with u aludnick. |
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