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Post by livimoaner on Oct 22, 2015 11:53:21 GMT 1
I am more aligned to your last post.
I think that most do not do because of fear, the fear of failing.
Such fear runs deep in football.
When I have sat with football managers and questioned them on their methods of training and coaching, fear is the biggest reason they do not do different and why they do as everyone else around them does.
I am not saying fear is a bad thing, that fire will burn, but in many fields taking risk is what sets people apart and creates success. South West Airlines is a good case study in this respect, when downturns were happening in their industry, the accountants of the other firms did what they do and cut staff and sold off planes, South West did not. Consequently when the upturns happened they were best placed to benefit from it, doing this several times took them from being the 4th largest carrier in the US to being the largest carrier in the World. They did different.
As for managerial Gurus, not sure if it will cost money but can cost pride. It could be mighty scary to phone Jose off speck but the worst can happen is he says no, but take the risk and he may say yes. It may not have to be a football manager, could our new owners not get Mark in contact with some of their business contacts and say an afternoon over coffee and scones may yield a valuable insight of how they gained and grew success. As said before the football thing is not going to change so maybe the learning has to come from elsewhere, the improve come from seeing and learning from other successful teams in other environs.
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Post by Auldnick on Oct 23, 2015 19:59:20 GMT 1
Fear has been the biggest factor in Scottish Football for years. Jim McLean pointed this out when he was going great guns at Dundee United. So not really an amazing revelation that it still is an issue. The divisions are too small (McLean made this point too) managers are scared to blood youngsters because if they do & the youngsters fail or burn out; the manager gets it in the neck....if thy don't & the experienced guys fail, they still get it in the neck for not blooding the youngsters.
Back when we were a struggling Premier League side laden with some half decent foreigners; one of my match day pals (he's long stopped attending)would bemoan the lack of quality & said we'd be better playing young Scots rather than overpaid overhyped overhere prima donnas. Then we did exactly that...and got relegated.
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Burchill?
Oct 24, 2015 23:35:40 GMT 1
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Post by misdemeanor on Oct 24, 2015 23:35:40 GMT 1
Saw on Livi Live that Burchill thinks it was a great performance last week. I am fed up hearing the sob stories the fact of the matter is after 9 games we are bottom of the league with 4pts. Lets hope he has the team in all weekend working hard for St Mirren game, as this is becoming a massive game for Livi. |
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Burchill?
Oct 24, 2015 23:37:44 GMT 1
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Post by misdemeanor on Oct 24, 2015 23:37:44 GMT 1
The man is doing the best he can with the resources he has. Today was evident if his work ethic. Leave the guy to progress and develop as a manager. End off.
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Burchill?
Oct 25, 2015 11:08:15 GMT 1
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Post by colcal on Oct 25, 2015 11:08:15 GMT 1
It's time for everyone to rally round Mark Burchill and support him fully. Yesterday's result and performance prove that he has what it takes. He made changes that worked. H
If there was evidence that he'd 'lost the dressing room' or performances were getting worse, then I could understand the disgruntlement. But everything suggests the opposite - he clearly has the support of the players, who're obviously playing for him. The performances have been broadly good and there are increasing signs of improvements from individual players and the team generally. These are all huge positives.
Yesterday's result was always likely to happen. We should have won at Dumbarton (but for a sending off) and against St Mirren (but for a missed penalty and several other chances).
We are on the up. Keep up the good work Mark - it'll be worth it in the end.
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Post by toplion on Oct 25, 2015 13:21:48 GMT 1
It's time for everyone to rally round Mark Burchill and support him fully. Yesterday's result and performance prove that he has what it takes. He made changes that worked. H If there was evidence that he'd 'lost the dressing room' or performances were getting worse, then I could understand the disgruntlement. But everything suggests the opposite - he clearly has the support of the players, who're obviously playing for him. The performances have been broadly good and there are increasing signs of improvements from individual players and the team generally. These are all huge positives. Yesterday's result was always likely to happen. We should have won at Dumbarton (but for a sending off) and against St Mirren (but for a missed penalty and several other chances). We are on the up. Keep up the good work Mark - it'll be worth it in the end. Burchill needs to lead from the front and be the "boss" not try to be everyone's pal. I am hoping he dumped Hippo yesterday as he deserved it. Forgive me as good as yesterday's result was we need to see some consistency in results before I am convinced on Burchill. Yesterday was a great result, but let's see what this Saturday brings. Yesterday was good, so now let's build on that and Burchill confidence will happen. |
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Post by jonsnow on Oct 25, 2015 19:06:27 GMT 1
Agree with Colcal and misdemeanour, and not just because we won either. Burchill has done well to get some of the players he has, with the restraint of an embargo it couldn't have been easy. We've enough quality to get mid table this season and push on from there to challenge for a top four spot next season, provided he gets a fighting chance in pre season to add a few signings to strengthen the team and doesn't have anything off field interfering with his preparations.
He's a young manager that will make mistakes, he isn't set in his ways like an older manager though and tries something different when things aren't working, just like our young players we need to give them a break and be patient when mistakes are made.
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Post by livimoaner on Oct 27, 2015 13:50:31 GMT 1
Fear has been the biggest factor in Scottish Football for years. Jim McLean pointed this out when he was going great guns at Dundee United. So not really an amazing revelation that it still is an issue. The divisions are too small (McLean made this point too) managers are scared to blood youngsters because if they do & the youngsters fail or burn out; the manager gets it in the neck....if thy don't & the experienced guys fail, they still get it in the neck for not blooding the youngsters. Back when we were a struggling Premier League side laden with some half decent foreigners; one of my match day pals (he's long stopped attending)would bemoan the lack of quality & said we'd be better playing young Scots rather than overpaid overhyped overhere prima donnas. Then we did exactly that...and got relegated. If the game was truely about the entertainment of the fans, many things would be very different. The same is true if it was about the quality of the game and the players we produce. As you rightly say the fear of relegation is debilitating, and you cannot blame the managers as the chance of relegation in our league is many times higher than elsewhere. Look at the premier league, one automatic and one play off spots gives a 2 in 6 chance of going down, 33% chance. In the EPl it is 3 from 20 or 15%. how can you take a risk and give a promising youngster a chance if you are facing a 33% chance of relegation...... |
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