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Post by jonsnow on Sept 13, 2015 14:48:41 GMT 1
First of all praise where praise is due. At 1 - 0 we were still in the game and at least having a go. We caused some issues down the right hand side of play with Pitman again pulling the stings in the heart of midfield. Hippo, to his credit almost set the equaliser up midway through the first half when we quickly broke from a rare Rangers attack. I say rare because at times they were lack lustre, a few passes going astray they were not a jelling as I am sure the highlights will not show. Our back four held firm broke each attempt as Rangers tried to probe through but to not any real threat. So at 38 minutes I thought go in at 1 -0 were still in the game, but, lack of concentration from the bomb scare in goal, and game over. The second half came and went, the game was over, Rangers just never got out of neutral to be honest, we posed no threat, again, we bring Mullen on instead of Sheerin, and he does his trademark of the square root of again no contribution what so ever. This was a game, correct not expected to win, so play the bench, why not, we had experience and unknown talent wasting away on the bench so this was a game to completely re-arrange the team and have a go. Yes you can argue 3 - 0 not heavy, but remember Rangers had switched off after the second went in. We posed no threat in the second half what so ever.
I've read that from a few sources, their manager wasn't too happy with their performance against us either. Was that partly down to how we played or did they just have an off day, or perhaps a bit of both?
Usually when fans say their team played poorly they just put it down to their own team being poor and give no credit to the other team having a part in it.
Yeah Pittman is a shining star in midfield, Hippo is a maverick that frustrates and excites our fans in equal measure, both are good players at this level though and stick out in our team.
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Post by toughatthetop on Sept 13, 2015 20:00:06 GMT 1
How is sheerin going to get better when he's not getting played he's not the answer were leaking more than we score our goalie simply isn't good enough as the whole team in front of him
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Post by liviman on Sept 13, 2015 21:17:43 GMT 1
This is Burchills team though?
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 13, 2015 23:05:13 GMT 1
The video did NOT show that it was a clear red card offence; it was a deliberate trip. I agree his actions ran the risk of getting a red card but the foul wasn't severe enough to merit a red card. The referee overreacted (as have you). Strictly speaking the refs decision IS all that matters, or at least it used to be, nowadays though it isn't because of appeals & video evidence. As you say elsewhere, lets agree to disagree, that's fine, you can be wrong if you want to be. I agree that it is too early to talk about punting Burchill. He came good last season when all looked to be lost. He has had a high turnover of players (yet again) & was handcuffed in building his squad by the embargo - the squad therefore hasn't had time to gel & it may take a few more games yet; but we need to give him a chance to get it right. We are not yet detached, a couple of wins could make all the difference. We shouldn't be expecting anything other than a scrap at the wrong end of the table but if/when the side is firing on all cylinders we might just come good again. the squad won't gel and the likes of sheerin won't get match fit no reserve games mean no fitness levels for the subs were had it face the facts Last March we'd had it; we were losing every week to even the worst teams in the league...& a month later we had won a cup & stayed up; so stop talking nonsense & get behind the team! |
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 13, 2015 23:24:20 GMT 1
How is sheerin going to get better when he's not getting played he's not the answer were leaking more than we score our goalie simply isn't good enough as the whole team in front of him He's the answer to our goals problem, big target man that would play in White or Buchanan.
If we get goals it puts pressure on the other team and at least gives us a chance of winning a game. How many games last season were we dominating possession and creating chances only to lose because we hadn't scored goals when we were on top, it gave the other team confidence knowing they could still win the game and they usually ended up scoring a late goal to take all 3 points.
I disagree our defence isn't good enough, we kept it tight against QoS twice, St Mirren twice, and Falkirk, even The Rangers away was reasonably tight. The games where it ll went to pot were Raith and Morton, both helped by refereeing decision that had us chasing the game leaving ourselves more open to being hit on the break.
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Post by livilad2001 on Sept 13, 2015 23:27:09 GMT 1
I think we ok.
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Post by joma on Sept 14, 2015 9:30:25 GMT 1
I think we have a good defence and good forwArds we lack a creative midfield.
All this talk about Pitmann what does he actually create?
Simple question
What does Cole or Gibbons add to the midfield
Centre midfield is the most important part of a football team for creating opprtunities and we don't .
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Post by livimoaner on Sept 14, 2015 12:44:58 GMT 1
Talk of changing the manager is a nonsense. So you want to bring someone else in? Then what - give him until Christmas and sack him too? If history has taught us nothing else, it's that we need some stability off the field. Then the players will know where they stand. The results will follow. Keep supporting the team and the manager. That's what they need from those of us whore left. It is possible to have a different manager who is still the same man. It seems that football professionals are reluctant readers of their game, they spend little time studying how to improve their own team. Funny though they do spend a lot of time studying videos of other teams in a hope of preventing that team playing, but it is rare that they study other sports or teams from different leagues to test and see what approaches could be used for their own team. Maybe it is the personality thing in football that prevents them asking for help or constructive criticism from others. Now some will answer this post by saying we do nothing different than other teams. This is entirely my point, for years we have struggled for years we have done things the standard way as done every where else in Scottish football. Maybe innovation is the salvation we need. |
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Post by italion on Sept 14, 2015 13:26:49 GMT 1
I think we have a good defence and good forwArds we lack a creative midfield. All this talk about Pitmann what does he actually create? Simple question What does Cole or Gibbons add to the midfield Centre midfield is the most important part of a football team for creating opprtunities and we don't . Simple answer to a simple question. Pittman has the ability to control and change the game. Arguably our best player. Cole is suffering and needs to be dropped. He is not the same player as last season and looks to have lost any pace that he had. Gibbons is the "enforcer" and cleans up after others make mistakes. He is the link from defence to attack. |
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Post by Mr Angry on Sept 14, 2015 16:20:35 GMT 1
Simple answer to a simple question. Pittman has the ability to control and change the game. Arguably our best player. Cole is suffering and needs to be dropped. He is not the same player as last season and looks to have lost any pace that he had. Gibbons is the "enforcer" and cleans up after others make mistakes. He is the link from defence to attack. Pittman is a decent wee lad who runs about a lot, but ability to change a game? Cole needs to stay out the boozer and he might be able to run again. Gibbons an enforcer? lol, no he's no. |
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Post by toughatthetop on Sept 14, 2015 17:38:08 GMT 1
Lol I've heard it all now ....pitman wasn't wanted under previous manager it's a case of give my pals a job now the pals ain't good enough...who actually scouted the Portuguese pensioner and spaz?
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Post by durnford on Sept 14, 2015 21:54:00 GMT 1
I think we have a good defence and good forwArds we lack a creative midfield. All this talk about Pitmann what does he actually create? Simple question What does Cole or Gibbons add to the midfield Centre midfield is the most important part of a football team for creating opprtunities and we don't . Gibbon adds bite and direction; Cole adds a reason why we drop points |
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 15, 2015 0:08:01 GMT 1
Hippo is probably the player most capable of changing a game for us, Mullen is able to take the ball and make something happen too but far too many times he's just too easily taken off the ball. I like Pittman too but he's no Scougall, we just haven't that calibre of player on our budget, Pittman has skill to take players on and put defenders on the back foot though.
Still need to get a front two pairing sorted for the midfield to supply with the ball though, Just isn't any good having one player up from running about like a headless chicken chasing after the ball and nobody to play it to even if they do get it. Seen Buchanan going wide to get the ball then we've nobody in the box to score a goal as he's the player that should be in there looking to get on the end of the ball.
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Post by misdemeanor on Sept 15, 2015 8:53:47 GMT 1
How is sheerin going to get better when he's not getting played he's not the answer were leaking more than we score our goalie simply isn't good enough as the whole team in front of him Sheerin is a better more physical player than Mullen (IMO) he should be given the opportunity. DJ needs dropped he simply as you say is not good enough. Get young Gould in goal. |
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Post by misdemeanor on Sept 15, 2015 8:54:38 GMT 1
This is Burchills team though? You missed one word out there....Mates |
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Post by misdemeanor on Sept 15, 2015 9:00:43 GMT 1
Hippo is probably the player most capable of changing a game for us, Mullen is able to take the ball and make something happen too but far too many times he's just too easily taken off the ball. I like Pittman too but he's no Scougall, we just haven't that calibre of player on our budget, Pittman has skill to take players on and put defenders on the back foot though. Still need to get a front two pairing sorted for the midfield to supply with the ball though, Just isn't any good having one player up from running about like a headless chicken chasing after the ball and nobody to play it to even if they do get it. Seen Buchanan going wide to get the ball then we've nobody in the box to score a goal as he's the player that should be in there looking to get on the end of the ball. Only slight disagreement here is Mullen has the ability to take the ball and make something happen but does not use it and as you correctly say falls down too easily, back to the discussion about the physical aspect of the game and quite simply he (Mullen) IMO does not have it, but Sheerin does. I am not saying he is the answer but surely its worth a go. |
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Post by misdemeanor on Sept 15, 2015 9:06:38 GMT 1
Lol I've heard it all now ....pitman wasn't wanted under previous manager it's a case of give my pals a job now the pals ain't good enough...who actually scouted the Portuguese pensioner and spaz? Back to my point earlier, its Burchills mates that play for us...although Pitman has been the stand out player for us this season. Hippo has contributed almost to the same level, but the rest?? Sorry..... |
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Post by orco on Sept 15, 2015 9:54:41 GMT 1
Sheerin is a better more physical player than Mullen (IMO) he should be given the opportunity. DJ needs dropped he simply as you say is not good enough. Get young Gould in goal.What is he like as a keeper? Have you seen him play? |
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Post by hack on Sept 18, 2015 12:25:28 GMT 1
Sheerin is terrible. Way out of his depth.
The fact we play Gallacher right back, and continue to give White a chance sums up how clueless Burchill actually is.
The players that Burchill have brought in are pretty humpty.
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 18, 2015 13:05:20 GMT 1
Stronly disagree with you Hack. Sheerin has lifted the games for us whenever I've seen him come on as sub, both him and White have done well together. White has actually scored all his goals after Sheerin came on, and you saw the difference immediately against Morton.
The are our best looking pairing for a front two.
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Post by LIVItv archive 2008-15 on Sept 22, 2015 7:37:11 GMT 1
Rangers 3-0 Livingston
SPFL Championship
Saturday 12th September 2015
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