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Post by The Lions' Den on Sept 11, 2015 17:19:42 GMT 1
Post your match comments here..........
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 11, 2015 22:45:30 GMT 1
Much as I hope we pump this mob with Pedro behind the goals....I fear it is us who will be on the wrong end of the pump.
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Post by Pedro on Sept 11, 2015 23:30:53 GMT 1
I hope we pump this mob! See you behind the goals. #COLTS
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Post by Mr Angry on Sept 12, 2015 8:46:04 GMT 1
I hear its armed forces day through at castle greyskull this afternoon. Jesus wept.
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Post by toughatthetop on Sept 12, 2015 10:20:38 GMT 1
We're expected to loose this one so I'm not posting anything other than praise for the troops today
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Post by toplion on Sept 12, 2015 10:53:37 GMT 1
Is Burchill available for this or is he away playing in a Celtic charity game?
Not expecting to much as long as the score line is respectable and would take a draw right now
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Post by theflashingblade on Sept 12, 2015 12:07:12 GMT 1
Well I decided ages ago that this was a game not worth shelling out my hard earned for and to hear that the Ibrox hordes will be celebrating the British Armed Forces today (no doubt with their usual array of hymns) makes me satisfied that this was, for me, the correct decision.
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 12, 2015 17:42:30 GMT 1
Not the worst result keeping it down to 3, QoS, Raith & Alloa al conceded 5 against them so our players confidence shouldn't be too badly knocked.
Other results went our way too with Alloa & St Mirren losing, and the Dumbarton v Morton game ending a draw.
Hopefully we can get something against Hibs then look for wins against Dumbarton & Alloa in the following league games.
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Post by liviman on Sept 12, 2015 18:58:04 GMT 1
We offered nothing in the final third today. Burchill must be starting to fear the vote of confidence by the board soon.
I can't see where 3pts is coming from.
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 12, 2015 19:39:32 GMT 1
I think you have to wait till after the Dumbarton & Alloa game before getting a panic on, if we don't take at least 4 points from those games then i fear for Burchill's job.
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Post by colcal on Sept 12, 2015 19:40:19 GMT 1
I thought we did ok considering the circumstances. Don't see what all the fuss is about Rangers. Workmanlike team but nothing special. Our season isn't going to be defined by games against the top teams in the league. I thought Pitmann was excellent again and like Margyn Neill when he came on (proper defending!). We have a stronger squad than last year. The bench gives me lots of hope that we'll be fine over the course of the season. We all have to remember that we've got lots of new faces in the squad and we need the manager to be given the time to find his best eleven. We have more manageable games coming up, once the Hibs match is out of the way.
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Post by liviman on Sept 12, 2015 19:51:07 GMT 1
I thought we did ok considering the circumstances. Don't see what all the fuss is about Rangers. Workmanlike team but nothing special. Our season isn't going to be defined by games against the top teams in the league. I thought Pitmann was excellent again and like Margyn Neill when he came on (proper defending!). We have a stronger squad than last year. The bench gives me lots of hope that we'll be fine over the course of the season. We all have to remember that we've got lots of new faces in the squad and we need the manager to be given the time to find his best eleven. We have more manageable games coming up, once the Hibs match is out of the way. How long do you seriously give it, as I see our overall supporters numbers going down not up. All very well saying its to early but we need points or we will be playing 1st Div football next season. What is Burchy doing to win over the fans as this style of football is not working for us. anyone know where our next 3pts are coming from?
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Post by colcal on Sept 12, 2015 20:01:13 GMT 1
Talk of changing the manager is a nonsense. So you want to bring someone else in? Then what - give him until Christmas and sack him too? If history has taught us nothing else, it's that we need some stability off the field. Then the players will know where they stand. The results will follow. Keep supporting the team and the manager. That's what they need from those of us whore left.
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Post by liviman on Sept 12, 2015 20:05:43 GMT 1
Talk of changing the manager is a nonsense. So you want to bring someone else in? Then what - give him until Christmas and sack him too? If history has taught us nothing else, it's that we need some stability off the field. Then the players will know where they stand. The results will follow. Keep supporting the team and the manager. That's what they need from those of us whore left. With respect it definitely was a red card against Morton until you conceded maybe it wasn't and it was all about opinions. I am saying how long do we give Burchill till October, Xmas, end of the season? Where re is our next 3pts coming from?
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Post by colcal on Sept 12, 2015 20:22:06 GMT 1
The video showed that it was a clear red card offence against Morton. Theses of the game are full of decisions that rely on 'the opinion of the referee' which is why you are entitled to hold a different view of any incident. Gordon took the player clean out and ran the risk of being ordered off. He was stupid. Most crucially, the referee concluded the same as I did and sent him off. That's all that matters.
Nobody knows when the next win will be (of course). All I know is that we've had more managers in our 20 years than Rangers have had in their 140-odd years. Adding to that is just plain daft. We need stability and the supporters to support.
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Post by liviman on Sept 12, 2015 20:33:35 GMT 1
The video didn't show it was a clear red card offence. If Livi had spare cash I think they would have appealed it.
If we keep goin on and on there might not be any supporters left.
There wasn't even 100 Livi fans there today
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Post by colcal on Sept 12, 2015 20:49:00 GMT 1
Let's agree to disagree then. But let's agree that we all need to get behind the team, home and away, and that's all we can do as supporters. It's still only September!
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 12, 2015 21:11:21 GMT 1
I've only been to Ibrox once as a Livi fan and can't see my wanting to go again so others prob feel the same, wouldn't take anything from only 50 being there today.
I'll be at Alloa and Dumbarton away though and that's where we're likely to get 3 points from. Alloa are the worst team in the league, well hopefully we're not the worst anyway and we absolutely need to be beating them, Dumbarton will be a tough game but I'd be looking to take at least a point there.
Would like to see Sheerin on from the start in a suppoting role to either White or Buchanan, he's just the target man we've been needing and from what I've seen he's got the makings of a good partnership with White. The Hartson or Paatelainen type player who's hard to shift off the ball and would give us goals too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 21:44:02 GMT 1
Dissapointed in the Drum Beat Mafia boys , for a group that claims to be devoted to supporting Livingston that's 3 times they haven't been to Sevco away now .
Can we expect a presence at the upcoming Petrol Sniffing Cup tie .
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Post by Auldnick on Sept 12, 2015 23:01:38 GMT 1
The video showed that it was a clear red card offence against Morton. Theses of the game are full of decisions that rely on 'the opinion of the referee' which is why you are entitled to hold a different view of any incident. Gordon took the player clean out and ran the risk of being ordered off. He was stupid. Most crucially, the referee concluded the same as I did and sent him off. That's all that matters. Nobody knows when the next win will be (of course). All I know is that we've had more managers in our 20 years than Rangers have had in their 140-odd years. Adding to that is just plain daft. We need stability and the supporters to support. The video did NOT show that it was a clear red card offence; it was a deliberate trip. I agree his actions ran the risk of getting a red card but the foul wasn't severe enough to merit a red card. The referee overreacted (as have you). Strictly speaking the refs decision IS all that matters, or at least it used to be, nowadays though it isn't because of appeals & video evidence. As you say elsewhere, lets agree to disagree, that's fine, you can be wrong if you want to be. I agree that it is too early to talk about punting Burchill. He came good last season when all looked to be lost. He has had a high turnover of players (yet again) & was handcuffed in building his squad by the embargo - the squad therefore hasn't had time to gel & it may take a few more games yet; but we need to give him a chance to get it right. We are not yet detached, a couple of wins could make all the difference. We shouldn't be expecting anything other than a scrap at the wrong end of the table but if/when the side is firing on all cylinders we might just come good again.
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Post by toughatthetop on Sept 13, 2015 8:01:16 GMT 1
I've only been to Ibrox once as a Livi fan and can't see my wanting to go again so others prob feel the same, wouldn't take anything from only 50 being there today. I'll be at Alloa and Dumbarton away though and that's where we're likely to get 3 points from. Alloa are the worst team in the league, well hopefully we're not the worst anyway and we absolutely need to be beating them, Dumbarton will be a tough game but I'd be looking to take at least a point there. Would like to see Sheerin on from the start in a suppoting role to either White or Buchanan, he's just the target man we've been needing and from what I've seen he's got the makings of a good partnership with White. The Hartson or Paatelainen type player who's hard to shift off the ball and would give us goals too. I think you will find if you look at the table . We are the worst team in the league
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Post by toughatthetop on Sept 13, 2015 8:04:29 GMT 1
The video showed that it was a clear red card offence against Morton. Theses of the game are full of decisions that rely on 'the opinion of the referee' which is why you are entitled to hold a different view of any incident. Gordon took the player clean out and ran the risk of being ordered off. He was stupid. Most crucially, the referee concluded the same as I did and sent him off. That's all that matters. Nobody knows when the next win will be (of course). All I know is that we've had more managers in our 20 years than Rangers have had in their 140-odd years. Adding to that is just plain daft. We need stability and the supporters to support. The video did NOT show that it was a clear red card offence; it was a deliberate trip. I agree his actions ran the risk of getting a red card but the foul wasn't severe enough to merit a red card. The referee overreacted (as have you). Strictly speaking the refs decision IS all that matters, or at least it used to be, nowadays though it isn't because of appeals & video evidence. As you say elsewhere, lets agree to disagree, that's fine, you can be wrong if you want to be. I agree that it is too early to talk about punting Burchill. He came good last season when all looked to be lost. He has had a high turnover of players (yet again) & was handcuffed in building his squad by the embargo - the squad therefore hasn't had time to gel & it may take a few more games yet; but we need to give him a chance to get it right. We are not yet detached, a couple of wins could make all the difference. We shouldn't be expecting anything other than a scrap at the wrong end of the table but if/when the side is firing on all cylinders we might just come good again. the squad won't gel and the likes of sheerin won't get match fit no reserve games mean no fitness levels for the subs were had it face the facts
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Post by colcal on Sept 13, 2015 10:14:01 GMT 1
Suggesting that we're the worst team because we're at the bottom of the table is a ridiculous thing to say. It's mid-September and we haven't even played every other team yet. Using the same argument, Leicester was the best team in England a fortnight ago. A bit silly. Let's have this discussion again in January.
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Post by misdemeanor on Sept 13, 2015 14:04:25 GMT 1
First of all praise where praise is due. At 1 - 0 we were still in the game and at least having a go. We caused some issues down the right hand side of play with Pitman again pulling the stings in the heart of midfield. Hippo, to his credit almost set the equaliser up midway through the first half when we quickly broke from a rare Rangers attack. I say rare because at times they were lack lustre, a few passes going astray they were not a jelling as I am sure the highlights will not show. Our back four held firm broke each attempt as Rangers tried to probe through but to not any real threat. So at 38 minutes I thought go in at 1 -0 were still in the game, but, lack of concentration from the bomb scare in goal, and game over.
The second half came and went, the game was over, Rangers just never got out of neutral to be honest, we posed no threat, again, we bring Mullen on instead of Sheerin, and he does his trademark of the square root of again no contribution what so ever. This was a game, correct not expected to win, so play the bench, why not, we had experience and unknown talent wasting away on the bench so this was a game to completely re-arrange the team and have a go. Yes you can argue 3 - 0 not heavy, but remember Rangers had switched off after the second went in. We posed no threat in the second half what so ever.
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Post by jonsnow on Sept 13, 2015 14:37:42 GMT 1
I've only been to Ibrox once as a Livi fan and can't see my wanting to go again so others prob feel the same, wouldn't take anything from only 50 being there today. I'll be at Alloa and Dumbarton away though and that's where we're likely to get 3 points from. Alloa are the worst team in the league, well hopefully we're not the worst anyway and we absolutely need to be beating them, Dumbarton will be a tough game but I'd be looking to take at least a point there. Would like to see Sheerin on from the start in a suppoting role to either White or Buchanan, he's just the target man we've been needing and from what I've seen he's got the makings of a good partnership with White. The Hartson or Paatelainen type player who's hard to shift off the ball and would give us goals too. I think you will find if you look at the table . We are the worst team in the league I like to wait till we've played every team home & away before making that judgement on Livi, we've not even played Alloa yet who in my opinion have been substantially weakened from the team we managed to get above last season. We've lost some players too but not a defender & striker who basically kept them up. I don't think we're far away from stringing some wins together, if Sheerin gets put up front with Buchanan or White the goals will flow, he is the key we were missing last season, a target man who has a shot on him and is pretty good at holding off defenders to play in our other striker, aint going to be pushed off the ball easily with his build. Liked how he used his arse to knock off their defender making room to stick his shot in the roof of the net against Morton.
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