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Post by The Lions' Den on Aug 24, 2015 23:36:31 GMT 1
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Post by colcal on Aug 25, 2015 23:06:35 GMT 1
Excellent result. Pittman was a standout - the best player on the park. Glad to see that we played conventionally with a back 4 comprising two full backs and two centre backs. Midfield was excellent, especially in the first hour or more. Hippo, Gibbons and Buchanan all played their parts too in a hugely improved performance from the weekend. Credit to Burchill for ringing the changes. Shame about Mullen. Should have been substituted (in the way that Goodwin was for them) to prevent being sent off. They didn't give us the ball back from a throw in and Mullen either lost the plot or slipped. Either way, he ought to have been subbed at half time because he was on a booking and was very lucky to avoid a second one. Think Millen at right back has excellent runs up and down the pitch and his deliveries from corners and free kicks will bear fruit throughout the season. I imagine Saturday will be a bloodbath as a follow up to a few of tonight's grudges. Congratulations to the squad and the management team. Totally transformed from the performance of a few days ago. Let's get these sort of performances regularly in the league and we'll pick up our fair share of points.
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 25, 2015 23:31:59 GMT 1
Why did the ref add 8 minutes of injury time?
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Post by toplion on Aug 25, 2015 23:57:57 GMT 1
Why did the ref add 8 minutes of injury time? To give St Midden every chance of getting another goal. Gald they hey are out of the cup, but we need to watch ourselves on Saturday tho. I pi was worried for my safety with the way some of the St Midden supporters were acting tonight.
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Post by jonsnow on Aug 26, 2015 2:50:24 GMT 1
Excellent result. Pittman was a standout - the best player on the park. Glad to see that we played conventionally with a back 4 comprising two full backs and two centre backs. Midfield was excellent, especially in the first hour or more. Hippo, Gibbons and Buchanan all played their parts too in a hugely improved performance from the weekend. Credit to Burchill for ringing the changes. Shame about Mullen. Should have been substituted (in the way that Goodwin was for them) to prevent being sent off. They didn't give us the ball back from a throw in and Mullen either lost the plot or slipped. Either way, he ought to have been subbed at half time because he was on a booking and was very lucky to avoid a second one. Think Millen at right back has excellent runs up and down the pitch and his deliveries from corners and free kicks will bear fruit throughout the season. I imagine Saturday will be a bloodbath as a follow up to a few of tonight's grudges. Congratulations to the squad and the management team. Totally transformed from the performance of a few days ago. Let's get these sort of performances regularly in the league and we'll pick up our fair share of points. Agreed, was a more balanced team with the back 4 we started with and Pittman running the show in midfield. Cole was a nothing fancy player that did what was required to allow Pittman more freedom to attack too. Also thought Gibbons had a good game and Hippo was able to work overlaps with the 2 FB getting down the wing. Georgiev and Hippo also worked well together when he came on as sub.
We were still a bit off with our passing at times and just missing final balls by inches to rip them apart in the final third, but it is coming a lot closer to being pretty damn good looking football. If we get a settled starting eleven then we should see things click and start scoring more freely in games.
Anyway, much better from us although St Mirren looked poor allowing us plenty time to bring the ball out of our own half, they are a counter attacking team under Murray which suits us against them. I was surprised he hadn't got them warned about Hippo's long throws as it completely took them by surprise when we scored from the first one he took. Both Raith and Falkirk had us sussed taking them and just marked Sives/Gallagher so they couldn't flick the ball on.
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Post by misdemeanor on Aug 26, 2015 9:16:18 GMT 1
Great result last night, thought we played very well as aunit, everyone put in a shift, stupid sending off but that in itself is a great news to be honest, I will touch on that in a bit.
Got agree with the postings above, Pittman stand out player, Myles - he was just simply class at times. Gordon`s deliveries into the box from the corners were brilliant. Declan at the back was superb. Cole put a great shift in, however without naming each individual the whole team barring 2 played superbly.
We dominated both halfs, St Mirren looked lack lustre, sloppy, they seemed to lack direction from the bench (welcome to our world boys....)and at time all though when they broke or caught us napping they attacked in numbers you did not feel they were that much of a threat. Great stadium though, good response from the Livi fans, 108 at last nights game, this was shown on the electronic scoreboard.
So we will end, and already I can feel the knives going into the back, however, I mentioned Danny Boy. Well, I do not think he has the physical strength to do the role that he does. He seems to fall over too quickly at every tackle or when he tries to hold the ball he simple falls to the ground, this was really apparent on Saturday against Falkirk and on occasions early on in the game as soon as he touches a player, down he goes like a sack of spuds. Dont get me wrong when he is on his game he a competent player but for me is far to quick tempered, and he was lucky to last as long as he did in the game, and quite honestly would have had a better game up in the stand beside me in the second half. A suspension is good news, we have others that take his role, and he may struggle to get back in the squad if others can prove their worth.
Finally it is all right scoring goals but we have to keep them out. Player no 2 who in my opinion apart from one late stop in the second half our statue himself in goals. I honestly when a pass back or goal kick out, or a cross ball, my snuggies get filled very quickly. No doubt the cause of the first goal and their second let you decide, however even at 2 - 2 I was not worried, we showed more grit and determination to merit winning the game.
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Post by jonsnow on Aug 26, 2015 15:15:33 GMT 1
Looked like Mullen was elbowed in the head by Goodwin at the start of the game when he went down fouled, he scored our 2nd goal and had a hand in Buchanan's so wasn't completely useless. Agree I would've subbed him at HT though as he got booked for mouthing off at the ref and was lucky not to get another yellow for the foul they scored their 2nd goal from. Goodwin was lucky not to get a red for his elbow on Mullen too and was wisely subbed as he was heading for a sending off the way he was being ripped for pace and having to foul players to stop them.
I think everyone in the stand saw where their free kick was going when DJ left a big gap to that post, strange how he can't save free kicks when he's so good at penalties, maybe shouldn't bother with a wall and let their player just have a straight shot at goal.
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Post by stewie1 on Aug 26, 2015 22:13:47 GMT 1
Need to carry cup form into the league. Cup run is always nice but don't want another season with possibility of relegation
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Post by hack on Aug 27, 2015 9:56:33 GMT 1
The referee was disgusting. I don't think I've ever seen a performance worse than that. How he didn't send off Goodwin, twice and Danny Mullen just before half time...I'll never know.
Everyone kept on going on about the red card. If they had given the ball back after we put it out, then some players might not have seen red. Absolutely poor on St. Mirrens part. Their very poor play came right before Danny's poor play. They can't complain about the tackle when they do things like that.
We had 57% possession apparently and I think that it showed. We weren't too bad, and we were much better than them. Could have argued we could have easily had an extra couple.
A stunning free kick, and a well worked goal kept them in it and they only threatened a few times.
Millen was a bit shaky. Went for a couple of balls he shouldn't have. Was one of the worst games I've seen Ben Gordon play but I think it was just an off night for him.
Mullen should have came off at half time, and I thought Gordon would have been off for his yellow, and general poor play.
A good away win, but saints could be in for a long hard season. They are terrible.
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 27, 2015 23:07:07 GMT 1
The referee was disgusting. I don't think I've ever seen a performance worse than that. How he didn't send off Goodwin, twice and Danny Mullen just before half time...I'll never know. Everyone kept on going on about the red card. If they had given the ball back after we put it out, then some players might not have seen red. Absolutely poor on St. Mirrens part. Their very poor play came right before Danny's poor play. They can't complain about the tackle when they do things like that.
We had 57% possession apparently and I think that it showed. We weren't too bad, and we were much better than them. Could have argued we could have easily had an extra couple. A stunning free kick, and a well worked goal kept them in it and they only threatened a few times. Millen was a bit shaky. Went for a couple of balls he shouldn't have. Was one of the worst games I've seen Ben Gordon play but I think it was just an off night for him. Mullen should have came off at half time, and I thought Gordon would have been off for his yellow, and general poor play. A good away win, but saints could be in for a long hard season. They are terrible. That's like saying "Don't complain that I kicked your head in when you wouldn't give me the ball" They were unsporting but that doesn't justify a tackle that could (and in this case did) cause an injury.
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Post by LIVItv archive 2008-15 on Aug 27, 2015 23:10:54 GMT 1
St Mirren 2-3 Livingston Scottish League Cup 2nd Rnd Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Post by jonsnow on Aug 28, 2015 1:52:50 GMT 1
The referee was disgusting. I don't think I've ever seen a performance worse than that. How he didn't send off Goodwin, twice and Danny Mullen just before half time...I'll never know. Everyone kept on going on about the red card. If they had given the ball back after we put it out, then some players might not have seen red. Absolutely poor on St. Mirrens part. Their very poor play came right before Danny's poor play. They can't complain about the tackle when they do things like that.
We had 57% possession apparently and I think that it showed. We weren't too bad, and we were much better than them. Could have argued we could have easily had an extra couple. A stunning free kick, and a well worked goal kept them in it and they only threatened a few times. Millen was a bit shaky. Went for a couple of balls he shouldn't have. Was one of the worst games I've seen Ben Gordon play but I think it was just an off night for him. Mullen should have came off at half time, and I thought Gordon would have been off for his yellow, and general poor play. A good away win, but saints could be in for a long hard season. They are terrible. That's like saying "Don't complain that I kicked your head in when you wouldn't give me the ball" They were unsporting but that doesn't justify a tackle that could (and in this case did) cause an injury. They incited the incident with their bad sportsmanship. LIVItv haven't shown the tackle, another day and it's too late for the compliance officer to do anything, think he has 3 days to make an offer to a player. All I would say though is we've never seen Mullen do anything like that before so would like to think it wasn't deliberate.
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Post by hack on Aug 28, 2015 12:04:54 GMT 1
You can't moan about 'being bad sports' right after being bad sports.
Danny had every right to make any sort of challenge (I couldn't comment on it, as it was too far away and not paying that much attention).
It was a bad challenge (enough to merit a red so it seems) but it's just not right to complain about 'the right thing' when seconds earlier they did what they did.
Granted, we should have got on with it and defended it but I wouldn't hold it against Danny for being angry (and I'm not a big fan of the fall down, trip over his own feet merchant)
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 28, 2015 19:11:03 GMT 1
hack, I don't disagree with the concept but you're comparing two completely different levels of behaviour. I agree too with jonsnow, Mullen is not a thuggish player but if we were behind in a game & we gave the ball back I can guarantee there would be a fair number amongst our fans who would immediately slate the player who did so.
This is why when a player is injured the ref should stop the play & restart with a contested drop-ball like they did in the good old days; but the refs have abdicated the responsibility & wait for players to put it out.
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Post by Auldnick on Aug 28, 2015 19:21:36 GMT 1
Looking at the goals...DJ fails to cut out the low cross (doesn't even attempt to go for it) - he should have taken charge as it wasn't that great a cross although it was in the "corridor of uncertainty" - but with his defenders rushing back & risking an og if they touched the ball, he should have made the effort to cut the cross out. His positioning for the free was as always very poor. I thought that having a wee lad on the end of the wall was wrong as well but it wasn't a factor.
Buchanan's was a thing of beauty; good play from Pittman, Mullen & Buchanan following a decent DJ goal kick; Mullen's was excellent opportunism to follow up & poke home the rebound & big Dec finished his with the confidence & coolness of an accomplished forward... but was terrible defending by Saints.
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