|
|
Post by Livi News on Jun 3, 2015 21:22:25 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by albert on Jun 3, 2015 21:31:26 GMT 1
AND NOT BEFORE TIME
|
|
|
|
Post by toplion on Jun 3, 2015 22:02:31 GMT 1
This all smells of a rat & IMO unlikely to get the embargo lifted.
|
|
|
|
Post by orco on Jun 3, 2015 22:09:30 GMT 1
I wonder if his shares in Livi 5 being transferred to others on the Board will be acceptable to the SFA. I hope they see sense and stop punishing the players and fans indirectly because of one man's actions.
If the authorities continue to be intransigent then the existence of the club could be in danger. Mike Ashley can provide Rangers with Newcastle players who did score vital goals yet he got a tap on the wrist fine that would be loose pocket change to him and the club were given no sanction at all. To my knowledge there has never been any influence over East Fife that has been to our advantage.
It has to be admitted, I know, that Livi is anything but a well run club but from punting us down two divisions for going into administration six years ago to preventing us now from putting together a team plus various other punishments in between it appears to me that our club is seen as some kind of whipping boy by the SFA/SPFL.
They never seem to consider the fans who invest a lot of money into their club yet have to bear the brunt of most of the punishments.
|
|
|
|
Post by monkeysocks on Jun 3, 2015 22:50:13 GMT 1
Don't hold your breath on the SPFL rushing to have any extraordinary meeting to lift the transfer embargo. The whole undue influence thing stank from the very beginning and like Orco says we have never benefitted from Rankine's association with East Fife. Smells getting stronger methink
|
|
|
|
Post by durnford on Jun 4, 2015 9:33:07 GMT 1
I'm not particularly worried about the transfer of shares thing- they're a saleable asset and can be transferred to whoever you like provided you can show that you do not continue to hold influence over the new owner.
My biggest concern is that previously he has been quoted as saying that Carolyn Sumner is his representative on the board. Carolyn's still there isn't she; does he still have influence over her (other than the obvious)?
|
|
|
|
Post by orco on Jun 4, 2015 15:52:58 GMT 1
Rankine transferred his shares to the East Fife woman and wasn't able to prove he did not hold influence. Mind you how you go about proving such a thing escapes me.
|
|
|
|
Post by durnford on Jun 5, 2015 9:29:18 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by liviman on Jun 5, 2015 22:05:00 GMT 1
All sounds fishy if you ask me
These clowns have no idea how to run a successful football club with no major dramas
|
|
|
|
Post by Mango Fan on Jun 6, 2015 9:04:32 GMT 1
|
|
joma
New Member
Posts: 16 
|
Post by joma on Jun 6, 2015 9:26:05 GMT 1
Total mess, it would appear that GM has had enough and wants out. To be honest if Rankine doesn't go and Martindale with him the maybe the SFA should not lift the embargo.
it is going to take something severe to sort out this mess once and for all. It seems to me that Martindale and Rankine are closely linked and it's doing nothing positive for our club, just depressing me more and more.
|
|
|
|
Post by JonnyBeGood on Jun 6, 2015 12:58:26 GMT 1
Have Livi/Rankine paid back the cash yet to East Fifes largest shareholder that Rankine admitted to in this STV article? |
|
|
|
Post by Auldnick on Jun 6, 2015 16:35:59 GMT 1
Total mess, it would appear that GM has had enough and wants out. To be honest if Rankine doesn't go and Martindale with him the maybe the SFA should not lift the embargo. it is going to take something severe to sort out this mess once and for all. It seems to me that Martindale and Rankine are closely linked and it's doing nothing positive for our club, just depressing me more and more. I don't think GM wanting out is particularly surprising or even breaking news; it was being rumoured to be so during the season just ended. |
|
|
|
Post by toplion on Jun 6, 2015 16:52:50 GMT 1
Total mess, it would appear that GM has had enough and wants out. To be honest if Rankine doesn't go and Martindale with him the maybe the SFA should not lift the embargo. it is going to take something severe to sort out this mess once and for all. It seems to me that Martindale and Rankine are closely linked and it's doing nothing positive for our club, just depressing me more and more. I don't think GM wanting out is particularly surprising or even breaking news; it was being rumoured to be so during the season just ended. The point is he seems to be getting forced out and it would seem a guy who has a previous drugs conviction is running our club. Livi FC is becoming the laughing stock of Scottish football |
|
|
|
Post by Auldnick on Jun 7, 2015 15:11:15 GMT 1
I think you'll find we've been getting laughed at for years.
All we have regarding Martindale running the club is rumour & hearsay. If he is the man running the show then the league will have to do a "fit & proper person" test on him. If he is not officially running the show but is doing so "behind the scenes" then GM should be digging his heels in & coming clean about it rather than keeping quiet & letting it happen. If GM is not being allowed to speak about it on the basis that if he does he won't get his money back then he needs to get not just the league involved but also the police.
Frankly I'd rather the club died than it became a hotbed of corruption. Which is what it sounds like according to those posting the hearsay & rumours. Get the corruption out of football & that starts by getting our own house in order; there is no point in pointing fingers at FIFA if the board members at Livingston are holding each other to ransom.
|
|
|
|
Post by toplion on Jun 7, 2015 15:34:01 GMT 1
I think you'll find we've been getting laughed at for years. All we have regarding Martindale running the club is rumour & hearsay. If he is the man running the show then the league will have to do a "fit & proper person" test on him. If he is not officially running the show but is doing so "behind the scenes" then GM should be digging his heels in & coming clean about it rather than keeping quiet & letting it happen. If GM is not being allowed to speak about it on the basis that if he does he won't get his money back then he needs to get not just the league involved but also the police. Frankly I'd rather the club died than it became a hotbed of corruption. Which is what it sounds like according to those posting the hearsay & rumours. Get the corruption out of football & that starts by getting our own house in order; there is no point in pointing fingers at FIFA if the board members at Livingston are holding each other to ransom. People have dealt with him on a number of things from tickets to things happening down the stadium. That's the fact part not hearsay or rumour, but think the club is unlikely make a formal statement he his doing that (they haven't done it before) Are you really sure the league will do a "fit & proper" test. I am not convinced more likely to pull us up and hammer the fans rather than anyone else at Livi FC Do you know G McD? He is a real gentleman and won't fight his battles in the press unlike Rankine. You our can sit wherever you are and think it's all rosey & just hearsay down at EAA or we can publicly discuss it as fans. I am sure there is a reason our embargo isn't lifted yet. |
|
|
|
Post by Auldnick on Jun 7, 2015 23:30:03 GMT 1
I think you'll find we've been getting laughed at for years. All we have regarding Martindale running the club is rumour & hearsay. If he is the man running the show then the league will have to do a "fit & proper person" test on him. If he is not officially running the show but is doing so "behind the scenes" then GM should be digging his heels in & coming clean about it rather than keeping quiet & letting it happen. If GM is not being allowed to speak about it on the basis that if he does he won't get his money back then he needs to get not just the league involved but also the police. Frankly I'd rather the club died than it became a hotbed of corruption. Which is what it sounds like according to those posting the hearsay & rumours. Get the corruption out of football & that starts by getting our own house in order; there is no point in pointing fingers at FIFA if the board members at Livingston are holding each other to ransom. People have dealt with him on a number of things from tickets to things happening down the stadium. That's the fact part not hearsay or rumour, but think the club is unlikely make a formal statement he his doing that (they haven't done it before) Are you really sure the league will do a "fit & proper" test. I am not convinced more likely to pull us up and hammer the fans rather than anyone else at Livi FC Do you know G McD? He is a real gentleman and won't fight his battles in the press unlike Rankine. You our can sit wherever you are and think it's all rosey & just hearsay down at EAA or we can publicly discuss it as fans. I am sure there is a reason our embargo isn't lifted yet. Who says I think its all rosey? Its a mess & it needs sorted but whinging on here isn't going to achieve that. So he has been involved in tickets & things at the stadium...yawn. Has he been trying to sell drugs to anyone? If not then let him get on with whatever he is doing positively to help the club. If GMcD is not fighting his battles in the press presumably someone else is for the latest story to have hit the papers? |
|
|
|
Post by durnford on Jun 8, 2015 9:43:20 GMT 1
People have dealt with him on a number of things from tickets to things happening down the stadium. That's the fact part not hearsay or rumour, but think the club is unlikely make a formal statement he his doing that (they haven't done it before) Are you really sure the league will do a "fit & proper" test. I am not convinced more likely to pull us up and hammer the fans rather than anyone else at Livi FC Do you know G McD? He is a real gentleman and won't fight his battles in the press unlike Rankine. You our can sit wherever you are and think it's all rosey & just hearsay down at EAA or we can publicly discuss it as fans. I am sure there is a reason our embargo isn't lifted yet. I think the hearsay thing was based on the accusations that Martindale was running things at the club. Manning the front desk whilst selling season tickets isn't running the club in my book. When I went to renew it was actually someone from the LiviForLife group who sorted me out; using the same logic maybe she's running the club day to day? Actually come to think of it in not one single year when I've gone to renew my season ticket has it been sorted by someone from the board or general management staff i.e. someone actually running the club? I don't like the idea of Martindale being involved with the club in any capacity but would like a bit more to go on than volunteering to man the front desk before I start getting out the burning tar and pitchforks. Talking about more rumours there's others flying around now that the reason Rankine said the other offer on the table didn't measure up was because it had Nixon involved in its ranks Difficult to believe if the fact that the guys is virtually bankrupt is true. Another one is that McDougall is stepping down for Robert Wilson to take over - slightly more understandable as the guys had a close working relationship - if that's true maybe its a retirement rather than being forced out? Who knows - personally if I wasn't so keen on keeping my seats I'm not sure I'd have renewed my season ticket just yet - I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for holding back at least until some sort of announcement is made. |
|
|
|
Post by Auldnick on Jun 9, 2015 0:15:01 GMT 1
Why am I being credited with a quote which is only in my post because I quoted Toplion?
|
|
|
|
Post by durnford on Jun 9, 2015 11:17:54 GMT 1
Why am I being credited with a quote which is only in my post because I quoted Toplion? Not sure - probably because I c0cked up the "QUOTE" button? Apologies. |
|
|
|
Post by toplion on Jun 9, 2015 20:16:59 GMT 1
Here is the SFA update ;
|
|
|
|
Post by Auldnick on Jun 10, 2015 0:18:10 GMT 1
Can't say I'm surprised, they are probably consulting the dictionary to work out what the words in the evidence actually mean.
Asylum is being run by the inmates.
|
|
|
|
Post by durnford on Jun 10, 2015 16:24:10 GMT 1
Former West Lothian Council Deputy Chief Executive Gordon Ford OBE is Livingston FC's new majority shareholder.
Ford now has 40% of the club's shares. Neil Hogarth and Graham Leslie have both purchased 20%. Ged Nixon still holds 20%.
|
|
|
|
Post by italion on Jun 10, 2015 17:06:18 GMT 1
Former West Lothian Council Deputy Chief Executive Gordon Ford OBE is Livingston FC's new majority shareholder. Ford now has 40% of the club's shares. Neil Hogarth and Graham Leslie have both purchased 20%. Ged Nixon still holds 20%. Presumably someone knows Mr Ford. I don't! Seems a strange development. Nothing in his background points to him wasting money in purchasing shares in a football club. Could he be the public face for someone else? He seems to be a Leadership Coach/Ex Councillor/Ex Head Teacher. Not the normal profile for a football club owner?
|
|
|
|
Post by monkeysocks on Jun 10, 2015 18:47:22 GMT 1
The last published accounts for Livi were June 2014 where liabilities were partly shown as being approx £ 1.7million in debt. I don't know what the share price is but in order for transactions to have been done I would expect that the value has dropped since 2014. Nevertheless , on paper, £680k [ 40 % ] is a substantial undertaking. This may be a strong drive to community ownership .
|
|
