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Post by Pedro on Nov 9, 2019 10:08:30 GMT 1
I hope we pump this The mob!
#COLTS
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Pedro
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Post by Pedro on Nov 10, 2019 19:34:40 GMT 1
Oh well. Not to be.
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Post by misdemeanor on Nov 11, 2019 0:22:12 GMT 1
Offered nothing.
Lackluster performance with no direction from Bill and Ben who were clueless as to the Livongston set up and gave no instructions or tried to change the teams direction against a poor Rangers side.
Pathetic performance.
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 11, 2019 11:09:32 GMT 1
It wasn’t pathetic; it was our worst home performance so far this season but it wasn’t pathetic. I am advised that Morelos was offside when he scored & that Dykes was rugby tackled in the box at a corner late on but once again the officials chose to ignore the laws of the game when (or maybe that should be “so”) the outcome goes against us.
I saw a robust physical Rangers get away with holding, pulling, kicking, diving, elbowing & complaining for 90 mins (probably because Slippy had highlighted that his team needed protection) but on the whole they were the better side & deserved their win; that is football. So we regroup during the international break; work on our game plan & hopefully dispense with Accies next time out to put a bit of distance between us & them.
On another note I notice you didn’t post anything after we bested the defending champions a few weeks ago, why not? Nothing to complain about perhaps?
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Post by orco on Nov 11, 2019 12:00:43 GMT 1
So often I have read comments from fans of opposing teams that they had their poorest performance of the season when they played us. It annoys me because they ignore the fact that their poor performance might just have been because we played well. Perhaps that was the case yesterday. We didn't look like we played well because the Rangers performance was very good. They moved the ball about with ease and pressed us well when we had possession. Money buys you quality in football so when you consider the resources spent on the respective teams you could actually say we were good to keep the score down to 2-0. Anyway just Celtic next.  |
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 11, 2019 21:28:44 GMT 1
3 wins all season for Martindale? Tick tock.
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 11, 2019 23:57:51 GMT 1
So Holt’s job is safe then?
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Post by jonsnow on Nov 13, 2019 14:24:54 GMT 1
Some right downers on here that seem to love it when we lose a game, and hardly ever praise the club/team.
The Rangers did to us what we normally do to opposition teams, won the midfield battle, winning all the second and third balls, and all the scraps in midfield. Looked an off day for us but as Orco said, opposition fans say that sort of stuff all the time after playing us, so you have to give some credit to them when it's done back.
From a Livi perspective, we could've done better for both of their goals, Odoffin looked to be in the wrong side of the pitch, leaving the right wing free for Aribo to drift into and score. And although Morelos was offside for their second goal, again Odoffin was all over the place and should've blocked his shot at our goals. We got away with one when Taylor-Sinclair turned back with the ball and got dispossessed, but he's just in the door so hopefully he gets better with games.
We need to be a lot more 'at it' for the Celtic game and hopefully the International break gives us the time to get players back fit and match ready, as well as the defence chopping and changing all the time, due to injuries, we've a few players not looking as sharp as they normally are, probably due to coming back from injuries and not up to speed.
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 13, 2019 20:03:14 GMT 1
Some right downers on here that seem to love it when we lose a game, and hardly ever praise the club/team. The Rangers did to us what we normally do to opposition teams, won the midfield battle, winning all the second and third balls, and all the scraps in midfield. Looked an off day for us but as Orco said, opposition fans say that sort of stuff all the time after playing us, so you have to give some credit to them when it's done back. From a Livi perspective, we could've done better for both of their goals, Odoffin looked to be in the wrong side of the pitch, leaving the right wing free for Aribo to drift into and score. And although Morelos was offside for their second goal, again Odoffin was all over the place and should've blocked his shot at our goals. We got away with one when Taylor-Sinclair turned back with the ball and got dispossessed, but he's just in the door so hopefully he gets better with games. We need to be a lot more 'at it' for the Celtic game and hopefully the International break gives us the time to get players back fit and match ready, as well as the defence chopping and changing all the time, due to injuries, we've a few players not looking as sharp as they normally are, probably due to coming back from injuries and not up to speed. Ahem 3 wins all season. That’s relegation material. |
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 13, 2019 20:04:15 GMT 1
So Holt’s job is safe then? You really think he is the manager? He might have the title. |
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 13, 2019 22:16:00 GMT 1
Some right downers on here that seem to love it when we lose a game, and hardly ever praise the club/team. The Rangers did to us what we normally do to opposition teams, won the midfield battle, winning all the second and third balls, and all the scraps in midfield. Looked an off day for us but as Orco said, opposition fans say that sort of stuff all the time after playing us, so you have to give some credit to them when it's done back. From a Livi perspective, we could've done better for both of their goals, Odoffin looked to be in the wrong side of the pitch, leaving the right wing free for Aribo to drift into and score. And although Morelos was offside for their second goal, again Odoffin was all over the place and should've blocked his shot at our goals. We got away with one when Taylor-Sinclair turned back with the ball and got dispossessed, but he's just in the door so hopefully he gets better with games. We need to be a lot more 'at it' for the Celtic game and hopefully the International break gives us the time to get players back fit and match ready, as well as the defence chopping and changing all the time, due to injuries, we've a few players not looking as sharp as they normally are, probably due to coming back from injuries and not up to speed. Ahem 3 wins all season. That’s relegation material. And yet we are 7th... so while on the face of it 3 wins isn’t good, it’s still currently better than 5 other teams. Besides, why should we expect anything better? We are Livingston not Liverpool, we have about 1200 fans (& that will dwindle away if/when we do eventually get relegated if not before) & the smallest budget in the top division & probably smaller than most of the top two tiers. And if your other post is anything to go by we have a puppet in the dug out being operated by someone whose jacket is on a shoogally peg. Let’s face it we are a joke of a club with idiots for fans, frankly I don’t see why we shouldn’t close the doors & build another multi storey car park for the town centre. (For the hard of understanding, this last sentence was dripping with sarcasm) |
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 13, 2019 22:22:25 GMT 1
So Holt’s job is safe then? You really think he is the manager? He might have the title. Does it matter? You are suggesting Martindale is running out of time but said nothing of Holt, you seem to be in the know so I asked if Holt’s job is safe - he could be the lad who manages cleaning the boots, his actual role is not pertinent to my question. |
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Post by jonsnow on Nov 15, 2019 0:51:53 GMT 1
Some right downers on here that seem to love it when we lose a game, and hardly ever praise the club/team. The Rangers did to us what we normally do to opposition teams, won the midfield battle, winning all the second and third balls, and all the scraps in midfield. Looked an off day for us but as Orco said, opposition fans say that sort of stuff all the time after playing us, so you have to give some credit to them when it's done back. From a Livi perspective, we could've done better for both of their goals, Odoffin looked to be in the wrong side of the pitch, leaving the right wing free for Aribo to drift into and score. And although Morelos was offside for their second goal, again Odoffin was all over the place and should've blocked his shot at our goals. We got away with one when Taylor-Sinclair turned back with the ball and got dispossessed, but he's just in the door so hopefully he gets better with games. We need to be a lot more 'at it' for the Celtic game and hopefully the International break gives us the time to get players back fit and match ready, as well as the defence chopping and changing all the time, due to injuries, we've a few players not looking as sharp as they normally are, probably due to coming back from injuries and not up to speed. Ahem 3 wins all season. That’s relegation material. You need a reality check Jimbo, look where we are, we have no right being here with the fanbase we have, it's absolutely amazing the job Martindale/Hopkin did, and Martindale/Holt have managed to carry on*. They have broken record after record these last few seasons, we beat Celtic for the first time in our history too, and have done this with losing huge players from last season, give the guy a break ffs. Fans are the worst bunch of fickle feckers going, first sign of blood and they're going for the jugular wanting folk sacked. We're not even near the bottom club, St Mirren are in a damn sight bigger danger of going down than us, and St Johnstone are a state as well, i'm still confident we will be well above the bottom two come the end of the season, but even if we're not, I think it's bad patter putting the boot into a guy that has done miracles at the club for three seasons running. *As much as Martindale had a big influence in our current success, Kenny Miller was going to drag us into the mire last season, so Holt deserves a bit of credit for the management team working. |
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 16, 2019 0:01:45 GMT 1
Absolutely right JS. Couldn’t agree more.
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Post by orco on Nov 16, 2019 12:33:10 GMT 1
Ahem 3 wins all season. That’s relegation material. The 3 wins statement doesn't factor in crap refereeing decisions that have cost us. Only look towards the Scott Allan dive in the Hibs game, the Souda sending off and denial of a penalty in the Hearts game and you're close to another 4 points. Then there was a ridiculous penalty given to Hamilton late on that denied us another point. Those points would have us level with Kilmarnock in 5th place. We might still get relegated yes, but that's what is expected when you're playing with the lowest budget in the league against teams with resources we can only dream of. Up till the injuries to key players we were capable of matching all the other teams in this league. Let's just be realistic and carry on supporting the team. |
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 17, 2019 21:09:52 GMT 1
If i am reading this properly;
We shouldn't have won because of our fan base
We should have won but we didnt because of referees decisions
Great we beat Celtic but getting beat every game after that is not so great.
Its Kenny Millers fault
We have only won 3 times all season thats the facts. Its clear for all to see its role reversal at Livi. Wonder if santa will bring us a striker?
Ps Mon the Livi
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 18, 2019 21:50:23 GMT 1
We’re currently 7th that is also a fact
There are 5 teams below us another fact
We have a small fan base... fact.
We have a small budget... fact
The first two along with yours will change as the season progresses.... fact
Think I’ll change my name to Rafa Benitez
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Post by jonsnow on Nov 18, 2019 23:20:25 GMT 1
If i am reading this properly; We shouldn't have won because of our fan base We should have won but we didnt because of referees decisions Great we beat Celtic but getting beat every game after that is not so great. Its Kenny Millers fault We have only won 3 times all season thats the facts. Its clear for all to see its role reversal at Livi. Wonder if santa will bring us a striker? Ps Mon the Livi Dunno what you were reading but that wasn't it. Three seasons ago we were in League One, we're now in our second season in the Premiership with the smallest budget and fanbase in the league, yet are sitting seventh, above Hearts and Hibs too, but yeah, you carry on complaining the guy that has done miracles at the club should be sacked. Livi fans, sometimes I just despair. |
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Post by theflashingblade on Nov 20, 2019 0:46:34 GMT 1
Rankine is hardly likely to sack Martindale now is he?
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 20, 2019 7:18:38 GMT 1
We’re currently 7th that is also a fact There are 5 teams below us another fact We have a small fan base... fact. We have a small budget... fact The first two along with yours will change as the season progresses.... fact Think I’ll change my name to Rafa Benitez I believe we’re in free fall. Lets see where we are at end of December? Always think that its a good marker of where a team may finish My prediction is we’ll be in the bottom 2. |
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 20, 2019 7:21:48 GMT 1
Rankine is hardly likely to sack Martindale now is he? Doubt it. By all accounts he runs the show at Livi with Rankine. On a Saturday he shouts and balls at the players like he is a top UEFA licensed coach and |
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 20, 2019 7:48:30 GMT 1
If we were getting played off the park I’d agree with you but so far we’re not, that could change time will tell.
The point though is why anyone thinks they can complain when a club like Livi has a period in which they keep going higher & that period comes to an end. Enjoy the ride on the way up but always be prepared for a bump or two & a point where they have gone as far as they can go, the fall is often quicker than the climb.
And oh look the usual suspects are appearing with the same old mantra... give it a rest guys, no one cares about who is behind the scenes.
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Post by jonsnow on Nov 20, 2019 14:53:31 GMT 1
We’re currently 7th that is also a fact There are 5 teams below us another fact We have a small fan base... fact. We have a small budget... fact The first two along with yours will change as the season progresses.... fact Think I’ll change my name to Rafa Benitez I believe we’re in free fall. Lets see where we are at end of December? Always think that its a good marker of where a team may finish My prediction is we’ll be in the bottom 2. With our budget that's where we're expected to be, but I don't think we'll finish there. We've been pretty stable on the fringes of a top six spot all season though so I don't see where we're in free fall, it has been us and County bobbing up and down between 6th & 7th spot. We're well away from St Mirren, who'd need to double what they have taken twelve game to get, and us not to take any points while they're doing so, which isn't very likely. I think our recent success has raised your expectations and you've forgotten how much of an accomplishment it was for us to get here, and just how difficult it will be for us to stay in the top flight. We also had a big transition of players this season, after being pretty stable in that regard, having continuity with the same core group of players, especially in defence. However I think we've recruited well and are doing really well competing in games, I've only seen one game where we looked out of our depth, the last game against The Rangers, but I think that was a combination of them being really clinical with their chances and us having players carrying a few knocks and not at their peak. Looks like you have a beef with Martindale and are just looking for a chance to criticize him, the bawling comment you've made in another post is quite interesting, I've seen plenty of posts where fans hate their managers standing not doing that sort of thing, and they like to see coaches shouting out orders and being animated, all about what floats folks boats though. Just out of interest, did you praise Hoppy/Martindale when we were promoted into the Premiership, and Holt/Martindale last season for comfortably keeping us up, hope you did. And will you give them credit if they keep us up again this season and come on here saying what a great job they did? |
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Post by livijimbo on Nov 20, 2019 22:24:47 GMT 1
I believe we’re in free fall. Lets see where we are at end of December? Always think that its a good marker of where a team may finish My prediction is we’ll be in the bottom 2. With our budget that's where we're expected to be, but I don't think we'll finish there. We've been pretty stable on the fringes of a top six spot all season though so I don't see where we're in free fall, it has been us and County bobbing up and down between 6th & 7th spot. We're well away from St Mirren, who'd need to double what they have taken twelve game to get, and us not to take any points while they're doing so, which isn't very likely. I think our recent success has raised your expectations and you've forgotten how much of an accomplishment it was for us to get here, and just how difficult it will be for us to stay in the top flight. We also had a big transition of players this season, after being pretty stable in that regard, having continuity with the same core group of players, especially in defence. However I think we've recruited well and are doing really well competing in games, I've only seen one game where we looked out of our depth, the last game against The Rangers, but I think that was a combination of them being really clinical with their chances and us having players carrying a few knocks and not at their peak. Looks like you have a beef with Martindale and are just looking for a chance to criticize him, the bawling comment you've made in another post is quite interesting, I've seen plenty of posts where fans hate their managers standing not doing that sort of thing, and they like to see coaches shouting out orders and being animated, all about what floats folks boats though. Just out of interest, did you praise Hoppy/Martindale when we were promoted into the Premiership, and Holt/Martindale last season for comfortably keeping us up, hope you did. And will you give them credit if they keep us up again this season and come on here saying what a great job they did? Yeh we done very well in the Promotion season. All hail Hoppy. We done well first half of last season. Latter part of last season was free fall. Holt shouts on instructions at times but he doesn't bawl at the players like Martindale does at. Times from what i’ve Seen |
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Post by Auldnick on Nov 21, 2019 23:03:21 GMT 1
The yin to his yang.... if they are both bawling & shouting all you get is players not knowing what is required. Generally our players know what they are trying to do but like all humans they ain’t perfect so don’t always achieve what they want to or are asked to. Such is life.
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