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Post by henbroon on Jan 17, 2017 17:09:40 GMT 1
Whats with the £15 adult admission. Club gets it wrong again . I will not be there.
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Post by monkeysocks on Jan 17, 2017 17:46:10 GMT 1
Agreed, or should I just say greed. What makes this more special or important to the club than a league game against the same opposition? After costs, the clubs split the remaining revenue which will be next to hee-haw if it stays at £15. Have a rethink, please.
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Post by livijimbo on Jan 17, 2017 22:49:50 GMT 1
It's more expensive than both clubs charge for the league. 5 week month (pay wise) for many punters and yet again the clubs don't think it through. Lucky if we break the 500/600 mark
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Post by jonsnow on Jan 18, 2017 0:18:17 GMT 1
I's a pound less than what we were charged in the last round against Airdrie, and tbh I doubt we'd get much of a crowd for this game even if it was a tenner to get in.
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Post by livijimbo on Jan 18, 2017 4:02:05 GMT 1
I's a pound less than what we were charged in the last round against Airdrie, and tbh I doubt we'd get much of a crowd for this game even if it was a tenner to get in. Who cares about Airdrie. Both th clubs should be ashamed of themselves for this pricing. It he very least it should have been the same as league entry prices. Why pay more 'just because it's a cup game'?
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 18, 2017 9:29:08 GMT 1
I saw something recently, I think from supporters Scotland mail out. The recent surveys they have conducted showed that Scottish clubs rely on "ticket price" for a higher percentage of their income than most other countries. That tells me that Livi are not alone in failing to market the club & club produce (replica kit, leisure wear etc) properly. It also goes a long way to explain why entry is relatively expensive for individual matches when compared to the quality of football that is seen once inside the ground. Our season tickets are reasonably priced IMO and £12 isn't too bad for a league game but if clubs could market themselves better & get better TV deals & alternative revenue streams then they wouldn't be so reliant on gate prices.
In theory, successfully marketed clubs with decent revenue streams should allow cheaper gate prices; in reality (as we see down south) this doesn't actually happen.
I tend to agree that pricing this above league prices is the wrong way to go for a tie against a club in our division, but like JS says, the likelihood of this being a bigger than normal crowd is slim to nil anyway so with the club heavily reliant on gate prices maybe we shouldn't be so surprised.
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Post by bobafett on Jan 18, 2017 12:03:41 GMT 1
I wonder too if not having a Home match since Christmas Eve is also a factor in the comparatively higher admission price?
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Post by Pedro on Jan 20, 2017 21:44:03 GMT 1
Both teams have to agree the price or it is automatically set at the average home league price.
I'm working so couldn't have made it regardless but it'll be interesting to see just how many adults think that it's worth shelling out £15 for a cup tie v East Fife.
I hope we pump them!
#COLTS
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 21, 2017 14:35:14 GMT 1
Not going to make it either. Don't have the spare cash at the moment.
Would love to see us give them a right good seeing to...but I have a sneaky feeling it could go t a replay
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Post by livijimbo on Jan 21, 2017 21:24:26 GMT 1
We were piss poor today! Sort it out Martindale/Hopkin.
Playing with 4 CB's when we have a LB on the bench
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Post by Mr Angry on Jan 21, 2017 21:48:17 GMT 1
Oot the cup then. Never mind. The ref, unlucky, robbed, etc. Randall and Hopkirk know what they're doing. Nothing to see here. As you were.
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Post by misdemeanor on Jan 21, 2017 22:09:14 GMT 1
Firstly the positive side , No Drive, No Determination, No Solitude, No Distinction, No Effort, No Idea, No Direction, No teamwork, No leadership.
Now the bad points, Players missing? Well when I say missing, Kelly as slow as Gallachers days went at Castle Huntly, talking of which he was mentioned as the "big return" but the only thing about Gallachers presence was the massive tag strapped to his left leg clearly visible under his socks. He made no difference or impact to what we already had IMO.
Next on the hit list, take your pick, Rava - well, well, well just was not his day more wayward passes than the outside lane of the M8. Pitman, midfield? defence or just somewhere in the middle, certainly saw a guy on the pitch wearing his jersey. Liam Buchanan, yes he was up front....!! Next Danny, perhaps contract signing till next year went to his head, he like others just ran about to keep warm, apart from when he was on his ass making sure the grass was cut !
Randal and Hopkirk or kins depends on the day, offered nothing, not a thing, Nil-pa, zulch, the square root of feck all. Indeed it was a bit like watching them decide what they would eat in a resturant where the menu was written in Latin.
So all in all not the best of days Credit where Credit due EF were full of fight were by a country mile the better side. And to finish said the Priest to the Alter boy, the goal was quite suberb worthy of winning any game.
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Post by bawbag on Jan 21, 2017 22:39:13 GMT 1
Thought east fife deserved their win today ,determined in defence and quick to break . Livi huffed n puffed didn't play that bad, just clueless in front of goals on another day we would have rattled in 5 ... Bring on the Brechin
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 22, 2017 1:12:35 GMT 1
Out the cup? So what? We were never going to win it, we'd probably have got another diddy team in the next round or an away tie to Aberdeen or ICT and the whole thing would be a distraction. OK a cup run can bring in much needed revenue but winning the division is more important IMO.
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Post by livijimbo on Jan 22, 2017 10:12:40 GMT 1
Out the cup? So what? We were never going to win it, we'd probably have got another diddy team in the next round or an away tie to Aberdeen or ICT and the whole thing would be a distraction. OK a cup run can bring in much needed revenue but winning the division is more important IMO. Maybe he Club was banking on it given he cash it's spending in this transfer window and hoping for a draw against a bigger club?? Maybe you should also read others posts (given you weren't there!!) it's the manner in which we lost not the fact that we lost and we are out the cup. Ex Cons 11 managed by Randell & Hopkirk
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 22, 2017 10:35:26 GMT 1
Out the cup? So what? We were never going to win it, we'd probably have got another diddy team in the next round or an away tie to Aberdeen or ICT and the whole thing would be a distraction. OK a cup run can bring in much needed revenue but winning the division is more important IMO. Maybe he Club was banking on it given he cash it's spending in this transfer window and hoping for a draw against a bigger club?? Maybe you should also read others posts (given you weren't there!!) it's the manner in which we lost not the fact that we lost and we are out the cup. Ex Cons 11 managed by Randell & Hopkirk I did read the other posts which are all bar one by folk who whinge even when we win 4-0 because we should have scored with every chance created rather than only 1 chance in 3, so until I see a bit of perspective from people who usually have a more positive outlook on the club... I also read the Match report on the OCS which suggests that we did everything but score... Not sure I believe that 100% either as I would imagine they would try to put a positive spin on the performance if/where possible. If you were to read my post you would see that I mentioned that money from a cup run would be welcome, so for you to point that out was kind of you but unnecessary. Ultimately, the most important thing for Livi is promotion and preferably going up automatically as champions rather than through the play off system.
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Post by jonsnow on Jan 22, 2017 15:24:13 GMT 1
Fantastic goal for East Fife to win it with but thought we deserved a draw. They pressed us well and had a lot of energy all game, but there wasn't really much action in the final third from either team till the last 10 minutes where Livi piled on the pressure. Too little too late though and maybe should had Carrick on a lot sooner. Rafa and Lithgow could be doing with being dropped for Mullin and Longridge too and we'd have more of a threat getting up the left wing, Mullen and Buchanan weren't getting any service from the wings. Cadden needs to learn when to pass the ball and his normally good deliveries were posted missing.
We missed Millar for his set piece deliveries and someone to link up with the strikers, and could've done with Keaghan in midfield to win some of the battles there as we were second best all game from 50/50 balls. Other than the wonder strike for their goal they only really got through once when Kelly saved with his legs from a one on one. Last 10 mins we hit the bar and had one cleared off the line, and a few goal mouth scrambles and I thought they had an invisible force field around their goal keeping the ball out. Perhaps it was for the best not getting that equaliser, our record at Bayview isn't good and we can put all our focus on winning the league.
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Post by monkeysocks on Jan 22, 2017 17:33:41 GMT 1
Any truth in the story that our midfield are going into the treatment room for RSI on their necks? They spent a hell of a lot of time looking upwards as the ball repeatedly sailed over them. 4 centre backs in the team suppose that is to be expected but Don't think Kelly started a move all game by rolling the ball out to someone. I'm an admirer of him and suppose it was following instructions but it must be disheartening for Buchanan and Mullen to scrap for everything and not get a through ball to run on to. We had enough chances to get a replay but I'd much rather get promotion as champions than a cup run.
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Post by misdemeanor on Jan 22, 2017 22:55:13 GMT 1
Out the cup? So what? We were never going to win it, we'd probably have got another diddy team in the next round or an away tie to Aberdeen or ICT and the whole thing would be a distraction. OK a cup run can bring in much needed revenue but winning the division is more important IMO. Maybe he Club was banking on it given he cash it's spending in this transfer window and hoping for a draw against a bigger club?? Maybe you should also read others posts (given you weren't there!!) it's the manner in which we lost not the fact that we lost and we are out the cup. Ex Cons 11 managed by Randell & Hopkirk Brilliant mate my sentiments exactly the new signings didnt just volenteer to pay their own signing on fees or wages, a cup run was nothing short of critical. The Celtic game today has guarenteed Albion Rovers financial stability for next few years, winning the league helps us but no cigar.
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 23, 2017 1:03:57 GMT 1
Again, you read but you do not take it in.... I said "a cup run can bring in much needed revenue".
Albion financially stable for the next few years because of 1 match? How much were they charging people to get in? Did Airdrie donate the use of their stadium?
If the single game today against Celtic guaranteed Albion Rovers financial stability for the next few years, then our 10 home games over two seasons against Hearts, Rangers & Hibs and our Petrofac tie against Hearts must have set us up for the foreseeable future... Yeah, right.
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Post by jonsnow on Jan 23, 2017 16:05:30 GMT 1
There seems to be a few wild assumptions about the club adding to the wage bill with the January signings of Gallagher, Millar and Keaghan, from what I read we weren't bringing players in unless we freed up wages to do so, and we've got five players out, so appear to have done so.
Doesn't look like the £15 gate money made any difference either, in fact we'd probably have made less money if we'd dropped it to £12.
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 23, 2017 21:40:20 GMT 1
There seems to be a few wild assumptions about the club adding to the wage bill with the January signings of Gallagher, Millar and Keaghan, from what I read we weren't bringing players in unless we freed up wages to do so, and we've got five players out, so appear to have done so. Doesn't look like the £15 gate money made any difference either, in fact we'd probably have made less money if we'd dropped it to £12. Come on JS, you can't let the facts get in the way of a good whinge.
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Post by afro on Jan 24, 2017 18:36:45 GMT 1
The wage bill probably hasn't changed too dramatically given who's left and who's come in, but it was said at the start of the season we were running at a loss for the coming season. We have the biggest budget in the division, and I'd probably bet it's significantly higher than that of Albion Rovers. Also factor in the higher stadium costs we have compared to their ramshackle ground, and it's not hard to see that they'll be set for a few seasons now at least. At the very least, a cup game away to Celtic would've more or less wiped out our loss for this season. And, granted, we've had several games against Rangers, Hibs and Hearts at Almondvale recently but the costs of punting two managers, releasing a wad of players, and coping with relegation from a predominantly full-time division to part-time one will have hit us in the pocket.
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Post by Auldnick on Jan 24, 2017 19:26:29 GMT 1
By the time Albion give Celtic their share and Airdrie a cut for using their ground, they really won't have that much left.
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Post by theflashingblade on Jan 24, 2017 20:34:57 GMT 1
And, granted, we've had several games against Rangers, Hibs and Hearts at Almondvale recently but the costs of punting two managers, releasing a wad of players, and coping with relegation from a predominantly full-time division to part-time one will have hit us in the pocket. Don't forget that the operating committee paid Gordon MacDougall the debt owed to him. Also, Rankine would have been looking to take back anything he may have invested into the club at the earliest opportunity too. All that'll have taken up a good part of the income from Rangers, Hearts and Hibs, if not all. A good cup run, this season, is exactly what the operating committee would have been praying for. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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